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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post
    Amber Rudd's cat would be an improvement on Boris.

    Regards Tyrone.
    Which proves the country is fucked.

    The "noise" I read comes from within the Cons, where they're going to "force Boris" to put Mays deal (MV4) to parliament "because we can't fight battles on so many fronts".
    Really, try Engineering for a career then...
    Apparently "they've" done the figures and Mays deal will now pass because there is the support as "everyone wants to get Brexit done".
    Except it's Brino and not Brexit isn't it...

    No leaders, just spineless charlatans going along for the ride. 3 years later, they've worn everyone down, ground everyone into the ground, nothing has changed, and the same "deal" looks like it will be accepted.
    And on average, they've all taken c£85k wages + c£180k in expenses per year.
    Each.
    Money well spent...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post
    Amber Rudd's cat would be an improvement on Boris.

    Regards Tyrone.
    Photos, or he'll deny he ever MET that cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    Which proves the country is fucked.

    The "noise" I read comes from within the Cons, where they're going to "force Boris" to put Mays deal (MV4) to parliament "because we can't fight battles on so many fronts".
    Really, try Engineering for a career then...
    Apparently "they've" done the figures and Mays deal will now pass because there is the support as "everyone wants to get Brexit done".
    Except it's Brino and not Brexit isn't it...

    No leaders, just spineless charlatans going along for the ride. 3 years later, they've worn everyone down, ground everyone into the ground, nothing has changed, and the same "deal" looks like it will be accepted.
    And on average, they've all taken c£85k wages + c£180k in expenses per year.
    Each.
    Money well spent...
    Some people thought May's deal might get through but that was before Johnson managed to alienate the Labour waverers the other night with his crass performance in Parliament. It'll be a brave Labour MP that votes for it now, they'd be well advised to start looking for another job if they do.

    On another point I wonder how many ex engineers are MP's these days. In the old days when I was active in the AUEW the Labour Party had quite a few MP's who had come up through the trade union movement and left the tools to go into Parliament. The union movement had excellent workers education facilities in those days and these blokes had taken advantage of them.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post
    Some people thought May's deal might get through but that was before Johnson managed to alienate the Labour waverers the other night with his crass performance in Parliament. It'll be a brave Labour MP that votes for it now, they'd be well advised to start looking for another job if they do.
    Oh, the stuffed shirts will find one soon enough.

    Fifth November cometh, after all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post
    Some people thought May's deal might get through but that was before Johnson managed to alienate the Labour waverers the other night with his crass performance in Parliament. It'll be a brave Labour MP that votes for it now, they'd be well advised to start looking for another job if they do.

    On another point I wonder how many ex engineers are MP's these days. In the old days when I was active in the AUEW the Labour Party had quite a few MP's who had come up through the trade union movement and left the tools to go into Parliament. The union movement had excellent workers education facilities in those days and these blokes had taken advantage of them.

    Regards Tyrone.
    You could also just have written:

    "Sigh. I remember the good old days".

    Parliament today is more like a Rangers Celtic match. Winning no matter what is the only important thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManicMetalBasher View Post

    Wikipedia article "Mission creep"

    The Dr Derangedlove of the 21st century explains the next step.
    Guy Verhofstadt on Twitter: "Let’s create a single Euro-African economic area. It would have an enormous potential that remains untapped: 1.5 billion consumers, 20 trillion in value, able to rival with China. #ALDEPAC… https://t.co/GkkVPqlonH"
    2:43 am - 1 Mar 2019
    "Let’s create a single Euro-African economic area. It would have an enormous potential that remains untapped:
    1.5 billion consumers, 20 trillion in value, able to rival with China."
    Mission Creep is how Junker rolls.
    As he says, they "float an idea out and wait for push-back, and if there's not much, keep pushing"...

    Which then leads us to Mad Dog Verhoftwat.
    He's the case-in-point of mission creep, and their puppet.
    IF he was FOS, they'd reel him in and stop him shouting off.
    But as they don't, he's shouting the plan (while Junker waits for push back)...

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    I'd be an improvement on bozo the clown

    Boris

    For educational purposes only:
    Johnson: american slang term for a penis
    Trump: British slang for gas escaping from the colon

    So we have a prick and fart in charge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris View Post
    So we have a prick and fart in charge
    Not a lot of argument.

    One sad observation:

    Truly befucked state of affairs we've gotten to when either one are actually an IMPROVEMENT over the far sorrier-arsed alternatives still standing as the only other choices on our respective dance-cards, is it not?



    Where TF is another version of "the last king of Scotland", Idi Amin "dada", when he might actually be a right useful fellow for the times?

    Oh. Wait. You don't suppose our "BJ" has read that book, do yah?



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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    Which proves the country is fucked....
    according to whoever / whatever faction has the hump with the government, this country has been f'kd since Sami was old enough to know what the word meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    according to whoever / whatever faction has the hump with the government, this country has been f'kd since Sami was old enough to know what the word meant.
    Can I edit my comment and write doublefucked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    Can I edit my comment and write doublefucked?
    You can be fucked as many times as you like

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    Now that we have used up all the f... words, can we go back to Brexit. Yes, the UK knows what they are doing! the EU has already signaled an OK for another extension. So what is the big hurry? More time is used up and less remains of the so called exit penalty.
    The UK can always fall back on the agreement made by Mrs. May, or they can revoke the "Leave" option. New elections and a new deal?
    So why hurry? With time comes opportunity! God only knows if in the end one or another EU member will break rank and all of a sudden it's a new ball game. Still playing a big stakes poker game. Give them credit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by juergenwt View Post
    Now that we have used up all the f... words, can we go back to Brexit. Yes, the UK knows what they are doing! the EU has already signaled an OK for another extension. So what is the big hurry? More time is used up and less remains of the so called exit penalty.
    The UK can always fall back on the agreement made by Mrs. May, or they can revoke the "Leave" option. New elections and a new deal?
    So why hurry? With time comes opportunity! God only knows if in the end one or another EU member will break rank and all of a sudden it's a new ball game. Still playing a big stakes poker game. Give them credit!
    LOL! 5540 posts in, I'm minded that you may have staggered out of a pup tent in a holiday park somewhere on the the shoreline of a great lake, urinated a random half-pint or so in fog and near-total darkness.

    Awoke to a dawn's early light stretching over one of the world's larger inland bodies of water, and said:

    Oh, my GOD!

    What the HELL have I gone and done NOW?


    No fear. Wasn't really your personal doin'.

    Pent-up piss of more than just the one sovereign nation had to go SOMEWHERE, didn' it?

    Pity most of it seems to have traveled no further than the already over-full pockets of our own damned trews.

    We shall just have to hold our various and sundry noses and .. what's the phrase?

    "muddle through" as it were?


    Lord knows, we've no shortage of practice at it....


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    Quote Originally Posted by juergenwt View Post
    Now that we have used up all the f... words,!
    You what? ……………...I'll give you a clue ;- this is a machinists forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    according to whoever / whatever faction has the hump with the government, this country has been f'kd since Sami was old enough to know what the word meant.
    According to some official statistics I read years ago the UK decline began in September 1965. By a very strange coincidence that was the month I started work, it can't be just down to me, honestly.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    You what? ……………...I'll give you a clue ;- this is a machinists forum.
    Dang.
    I've been hanging here too long because that's the EXACT same thought I had

    And LMF(there's another )AO at give it more time!
    I really don't think anything can be done except give it more time because parliament is paralysed from the neck up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    Dang.
    I've been hanging here too long because that's the EXACT same thought I had

    And LMF(there's another )AO at give it more time!
    I really don't think anything can be done except give it more time because parliament is paralysed from the neck up!
    Those among that sad lot who even HAVE a discernible "neck", anyway...

    Better-off had it been neck DOWN and they could at least have provided honest employment to worthy Coxswains of the wheelchair instead of being casually - and carelessly - farmed for food to feed a predatory media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post
    According to some official statistics I read years ago the UK decline began in September 1965. By a very strange coincidence that was the month I started work, it can't be just down to me, honestly.

    Regards Tyrone.
    I hope it wasn't my fault. I left the UK in June 1964.

    Maybe you starting and me stopping just started the ball rolling?

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    I couldn't find anything over dramatic here Tyrone 1965 in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    I couldn't find anything over dramatic here Tyrone 1965 in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia
    Dramatic!!!
    30th September. Need I say more!!!


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