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    Let´s see what happens.
    Next 2-3-4 weeks will be very illustrative.

    So far, as I understand it, they punted essentially everything into "future details to be defined" from trucking to food to medicines to crime to treaties to work and pensioners and foreign investment.

    So for a year british people will be faced with ever-increasing bureaucracy, paperworks, permits, and all at a cost.
    Perhaps 50£ per permit, like for travel.
    When a holday flight used to cost 49£.
    I don´t think the brexit people made all this too clear in their proposals.

    The british people now have the government and results they wanted.

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    The sweet price of freedom from an off shore oppressor.

    Now to work on the domestic usurpers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanermo View Post
    ... all at a cost.
    Perhaps 50£ per permit, like for travel.
    When a holday flight used to cost 49£.
    I don´t think the brexit people made all this too clear in their proposals.
    IAD London or IAD Milan are still about the same cost for me.

    Whom is it as is able to fly much of ANYWHERE on Hols, anyway, COVID as it is?

    Those still in-work are fortunate if they even HAVE work.

    Be more like 3 years before we see a difference than 3 weeks.

    The british people now have the government and results they wanted.
    "Some do." It was a VERY narrow margin. Wasn't overly keen on it at first. meself.

    Then it became apparent that the EU actually WAS worse-f**ked than Blighty and greedy for more-yet self-kinky-f**kery.

    Seemed wisest to bail out after all. Wonder who will be next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanermo View Post
    Let´s see what happens.
    Next 2-3-4 weeks will be very illustrative.

    So far, as I understand it, they punted essentially everything into "future details to be defined" from trucking to food to medicines to crime to treaties to work and pensioners and foreign investment.

    So for a year british people will be faced with ever-increasing bureaucracy, paperworks, permits, and all at a cost.
    Perhaps 50£ per permit, like for travel.
    When a holday flight used to cost 49£.
    I don´t think the brexit people made all this too clear in their proposals.

    The british people now have the government and results they wanted.
    You mean some of the British people have the government and results they wanted. Lets not forget that Brexit was only voted through with a 52% to 48% majority. Plenty of us didn't want anything to do with Brexit and we still don't.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post
    You mean some of the British people have the government and results they wanted. Lets not forget that Brexit was only voted through with a 52% to 48% majority. Plenty of us didn't want anything to do with Brexit and we still don't.

    Regards Tyrone.
    On both sides plenty people with zero reasoned ideas and less than zero competency one way or the other - those percentages mean absolutely nothing. Just another example of why democracy doesn't work anymore - it's (ab)used in making decisions the average voter can not remotely understand the consequences of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbital77 View Post
    On both sides plenty people with zero reasoned ideas and less than zero competency one way or the other - those percentages mean absolutely nothing. Just another example of why democracy doesn't work anymore - it's (ab)used in making decisions the average voter can not remotely understand the consequences of.
    You'd rather the Pope wield all the power ?

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    So..….what has Sleepy Joe done for the UK today ?
    Any executive mandates ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    So..….what has Sleepy Joe done for the UK today ?
    Any executive mandates ?
    He's probably been busy doing things for the USA. That's the thing about Trump and Brexit. Both were voted in about the same time. Four years later you could change your minds about Trump, we are stuck with Brexit.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    But to answer doug:-

    No longer leaving the WHO
    Committing to rejoin the Paris climate accord

    Most of the other 27 executive orders so far have been to everybody's benefit in the US and, indirectly, the rest of the world as well .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rand View Post
    But to answer doug:-

    No longer leaving the WHO
    Committing to rejoin the Paris climate accord

    Most of the other 27 executive orders so far have been to everybody's benefit in the US and, indirectly, the rest of the world as well .
    Yeah well. anything that benefits China first, Europe second by damaging the USA WOULD get YOUR approval, wouldn't it? Can't BLAME you for that. Folks are expected to look out for themselves FIRST.

    But "everyone's benefit in the USA" is actually NO ONE's benefit in the USA, not even the Sandalista/Bidenista/Bernie-AOC-wotever airhead roster.

    Unless they are on the Chinese or other non-USA teat.

    We elected a crippler - or so some thinkle PEEP we "elected".

    Regardless.. we GOT a crippler. That part at least there's no argument over.

    ONLY whether it was actually a good idea or not.

    Looks as if the burn-it-all-down mobs have the bit in their teeth. It was only half a loaf to see Trump off. Now they want the OTHER half and are back rioting already to get Beijing-Joe out?

    PLA aren't going to help him. Xi HIRED Beijing-Joe and simultaneously outed the payoffs to insure there would be chaos in the USA off the back of obvious sell-out, so why trust Biden, Inc. any more than Clinton-Perversion, Inc or ruin-America-Bama?

    Dumbasscraptics never twigged to China and Russia getting MORE mileage out of spies being caught and payoffs tracked than if they had hidden the evidence.

    Time will tell if Xi is the only one as gets value for money, but so far "so it seems", Putin not-even break-even. Yet. Then again, it's the EU he wants to manage anyway. Cheaper and easier for him.

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    I've been a long time ( 40 years plus ) subscriber to the British satirical magazine " Private Eye ".
    This week's edition has just arrived. On the front cover it has a reproduction of that iconic image from the film " Planet Of The Apes ". The image is of The Statue Of Liberty buried up to its waist in sand as a result of a terrible catastrophe.
    The speech bubble emerging from the statue's mouth is saying - " You Can Take Over Now, Mr Biden ".

    Regards Tyrone.

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    After what that damn orange ape did, we'll need a platoon of Bidens.

    Say, that crazed human cabal of nuke worshipers in "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" - was their leader "Q"?

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    Going back to the original topic for a minute. I've just been listening to a programme on BBC radio were they had an article regarding private individuals importing low to medium value articles from the EU. People like me who buy things from time to time from dealers in the EU, watches in my case.

    Apparently all sorts of extra charges are now being applied to the goods imported, tariffs, handling charges, VAT chargeable at both ends etc !

    That'll be me buying no more purchases from the EU until it gets sorted out and I'd advise anyone else in the same position to do the same. Let the buyer beware.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post
    Going back to the original topic for a minute. I've just been listening to a programme on BBC radio were they had an article regarding private individuals importing low to medium value articles from the EU. People like me who buy things from time to time from dealers in the EU, watches in my case.

    Apparently all sorts of extra charges are now being applied to the goods imported, tariffs, handling charges, VAT chargeable at both ends etc !
    That's interesting, because there is a whole mini-industry in China of overseas people buying stuff and shipping it personally back to China. The Assistant buys clothes from Paris and Italy all the time that way. And there's pretty entertaining TikTok daily shows of girls going to the nearest Premium Outlet in the US and demoing various blouses, skirts, jeans and so on. Then you buy and they ship.

    Seems like some people have the business spirit, while others talk about it. Maybe we can trans-ship to you

    p.s. Tyrone, I think you'll be happy enough about it later on. I'm sure there's benefits to the euroclub, but independence is worth even more. At least when your own government screws up, you can march downtown with flaming torches and pitchforks.

    Keeping the bastards responsible within egg-throwing range is always a good plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post
    He's probably been busy doing things for the USA. That's the thing about Trump and Brexit. Both were voted in about the same time. Four years later you could change your minds about Trump, we are stuck with Brexit.

    Regards Tyrone.
    Not what I asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rand View Post
    But to answer doug:-

    No longer leaving the WHO
    Committing to rejoin the Paris climate accord

    Most of the other 27 executive orders so far have been to everybody's benefit in the US and, indirectly, the rest of the world as well .
    That's not at all what I asked.

    Your deferring to the USofA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    Not what I asked.
    I'm not expecting any favours from the US, irrespective of who the President is. That's not how things work in global politics.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post
    He's probably been busy doing things for the USA. That's the thing about Trump and Brexit. Both were voted in about the same time. Four years later you could change your minds about Trump, we are stuck with Brexit.

    Regards Tyrone.
    Do you have any bad news?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milland View Post
    After what that damn orange ape did, we'll need a platoon of Bidens.
    ROFL! Looks as if yer GETTING them, too! Rounding up all the retread failures he can entice from the Bi-Damnyah era!

    NOW waddyah gonna doo!

    'bout as much as last go?


    Say, that crazed human cabal of nuke worshipers in "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" - was their leader "Q"?
    "Milland", wasn't it? Hadda be an omniscient one with an ego and ovipositor the size of ONE of the gas giants. Jupiter, is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmanuelGoldstein View Post
    At least when your own government screws up, you can march downtown with flaming torches and pitchforks.

    Keeping the bastards responsible within egg-throwing range is always a good plan.
    So it seems, now that your hirelings have switched their focus to messing up Quid-Pro-Beijing-Joe's daze. You HAD told the poor expendable bastid' he'd have to take Won Ton for the team?


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