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    IN the USA Ford no longer makes cars, except Mustang is assembled here, SUV and trucks only Not sure if this is worldwide or not.
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    Thats US only...Ford makes heaps of cars ,mostly small ,worldwide.....reason for the F is profit margin...much higher than cars.......Ford has also announced that all development is to be concentrated on electrics......but that maybe just BS for the millenials and greenies.

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    Tesla can now sell cars in Michigan the heart of the auto world.
    Before today they could not.
    At the same comes this weird thing..GM'''s Cruise unveils Origin driverless shuttle
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarbideBob View Post
    Tesla can now sell cars in Michigan the heart of the auto world.
    Before today they could not....Bob
    Kinda curious as to the why of that...

    I was wondering too if the full size EV Ford was made only in China.

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    There are already fleets of self drive cars in China ,if pictures on the net are to be believed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilho View Post
    Kinda curious as to the why of that...

    I was wondering too if the full size EV Ford was made only in China.
    They don't have dealers, many states have laws protecting dealers.

    the thought was not, I believe, to prevent the system Tesla is using, but to prevent manufacturers competing with their own dealers

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    Quote Originally Posted by john.k View Post
    There are already fleets of self drive cars in China ,if pictures on the net are to be believed.
    Generally I'm against self-driving cars but over here, it would be an improvement.

    Someone asked, so ... was talking to a carnut friend today, yes Tesla is making cars at their China factory now. Or that's the gossip, anyhow. Maybe they bring them in complete then run them out the other door with a new "Made in ..." sticker, who knows.

    But the other thing he said that I thought were odd was, Tesla prices have dropped a lot because of this, okay but also Cadillac and Jaguar prices have dropped way down recently. Enough so that people are thinking of them as "affordable luxury cars". Lexus/Infiniti territory.

    No idea why. Porches Bimmers and the rest have not ...

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    For the nostagia guys, I saw a new MG today. Looked like everything else, I have no idea why they bothered to buy the company, but there it was, the MG octagon on a new jellybean-with-creases small station wagon, aka suv.

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    Neat BMW driverless concept at CES.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilho View Post
    Kinda curious as to the why of that...
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    Not just Michigan...Tesla US dealership disputes - Wikipedia

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    Coming soon to a car near you........A laptop, TV, and snack tray built into your steering wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarbideBob View Post
    I'll be damned. Had no idea dealership laws/politics were so complicated, esp Michigan.

    Vermont, sucking hind tit as usual, isn't even mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarbideBob View Post
    Coming soon to a car near you........A laptop, TV, and snack tray built into your steering wheel.
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    One of the reasons manufacturers are adding gadgetry to new cars is fundamentally there haven't been major improvements in basic technology for a long time. Virtually any modern passenger vehicle from 2000 on is safe, comfortable, clean running, and will go many miles with modest maintenance compared to earlier models. Things like wifi hot spots and other gadgetry are there to entice people to trade up.

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    I was in China 3 months ago. I've never seen so many electric cars (except for Norway) in my life. Apart from the fact that for the first 5 days my transport was a Tesla almost all others (including taxis) were Chinese. Looked good and were comfortable.

    China 2019 Electric Vehicle Market Share Grows To 4.7% Despite Tighter Incentives | CleanTechnica

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    All this chit talk about eleccy convinced me to go and buy a 'lil gas guzzler - Abarth 595 190hp and 200ftlbs of torques.
    It really is the next best thing to a gocart.
    Driving should be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    All this chit talk about eleccy convinced me to go and buy a 'lil gas guzzler - Abarth 595 190hp and 200ftlbs of torques.
    It really is the next best thing to a gocart.
    Driving should be fun.
    Should bought a Ford.....
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    This thread makes me

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelieking71 View Post
    This thread makes me
    So eleccy don't float yer boat then Wheelie - I know i'd sooner have the stinkwheel - RingDingDing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottl View Post
    One of the reasons manufacturers are adding gadgetry to new cars is fundamentally there haven't been major improvements in basic technology for a long time..
    This gadget a bit different. A steering wheel that turns on and off while going down the road.
    Not sure what happens if you have your hot coffee on the snack tray and need to quickly go to manual and turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottl View Post
    One of the reasons manufacturers are adding gadgetry to new cars is fundamentally there haven't been major improvements in basic technology for a long time. Virtually any modern passenger vehicle from 2000 on is safe, comfortable, clean running, and will go many miles with modest maintenance compared to earlier models. Things like wifi hot spots and other gadgetry are there to entice people to trade up.
    Having owned cars with model years from 1949 to 2015, I sure dont agree.
    I have seen a constant, and easily noticeable improvement in technology all along the way.
    Post 2000, I owned a nifty Mazda 3 hatchback, with a smart (and I mean smart) automatic that was far superior to any slushbox I had owned previously, It was an amazing car to drive in the twisties, fast and stable and fun, comparable to a 2000 year car that cost 3 or 4 times as much and required much more repairs. I have driven "ordinary" Hondas and Toyotas post 2010 that were so much better than cars ten years earlier.
    Brakes, trannies, and suspension keep getting better, and the service intervals getting longer and longer.
    I have bought, and driven for 200k or so, several post 2000 cars that, aside from brakes and tires, required zero maintenance beyond oil changes. I owned a bunch of 70s, 80s, and 90s cars that were NOT the same.

    I dont use wifi hot spots, but I am quite partial to the heated seats and steering wheel volume control on my current little honda, which is much better than a ten year older honda. I like the fact that my phone automatically goes to hands free when I get in the car- these are real benefits, not "gadgetry". And that honda, a Fit, gets an honest 45mpg, can keep up at highway speeds, something that my 70s toyotas and 60s datsuns and 90s nissan sure didnt do.

    The main reason they add gadgetry to modern cars is because it sells.
    If nobody bought it, it would be gone in a year.
    They used to offer manual transmissions in the USA- and nobody wanted em, hence the current 95% plus rate of cars sold in the USA with autos. As long ago as 1986, I had to order the 5 speed manual from the factory on my camaro.
    The car makers respond to the market.
    They have to.

    I only recently got my first car with adaptive cruise control, and havent used it enough to have an opinion, but every friend of mine who has it swears they will never buy another car without it, for example.

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    I drive rentals extensively while on business, but look forward to my old truck with “stupid” cruise control, because I hate being a bloody impediment to traffic when some idiot in front of me hits the brakes 200 yds ahead. On just about everything I drive, one can’t turn it off.


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