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    Quote Originally Posted by Milland View Post
    You are doing a little "molehill" (Cuomo) to "mountain" (trump) comparison here.

    It was trump who ignored, then wished away the pandemic, leading to vastly more contagion and deaths than would have occurred if his maladministration had actually done the right thing (and, oh, perhaps encouraged mask wearing instead of branding it "weak"). My estimate is that half the excess deaths at the time (around 200K or so) are due entirely to trump and his negligence (malevolence).

    Now for Cuomo, he had to actually deal with the crisis. Sorta like trump didn't. Now it seems he fudged some numbers to make death numbers look not quite as bad as they actually were.

    But Cuomo didn't have the resources of the national government available to him. He didn't have the ability to shut down the airports and prevent travel of contagious people. trump did, and failed to do so.

    So sure - condemn Cuomo. But by those same standards, trump failed and prevaricated a thousand time worse.

    Where's your opprobrium for him??
    Get ahold of yourself man.

    I could care less to try and convince you of anything....Women have dicks in your mind.

    I was simply addressing Mr. Boat Works and his comment that the Emmys weren't rigged.

    I find comfort in the fact that people like you can't get Trump out of your mind, and it drives you mad. Trump emotionally drains you people...you're easy marks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milland View Post
    Are you a Flat Earther too? That has as much validity as your delusion that the 2020 election wasn't valid.

    Sucks for the closing company. But new ones will spring up. That particular "circle of business" has been going on for centuries. As long as there's competent people (who can think rationally and don't believe in delusions) there'll be places to be hired into.
    Sorry, half of the country might think that the election was OK, but there are about 74 million Americans who believe that it was bullshit.

    We both got screwed on the election. We lost our administration in favor of a socialist cabal and you got a demented dummy for a president. Think I'm wrong? The dems even now as I type are planning on doing a 25th Amendment on your dummy.

    Biden's doing one hell of a job.

    1. No press conference in 45 days?
    2. No state of the Union either so Pelosi won't have anything to tear up.
    3. Wide open Southern Border.
    4. Millions out of work in the energy sector and related support industries (Machining, fabrication, etc.)

    You obviously hated Donald Trump but I wonder how you will like Kamala for a president?

    Tough shit for both of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcgyver View Post
    we'd a disagree on many levels, maybe agree on others. Undo influence of those you mentioned and others is a perfectly reasonable topic for discussion. However that seems a completely different and unrelated to the baseless accusation of fraud at the ballot level. There seems universal agreement between officials, regardless of political ilk (as if that should matter, sad testimony to your country if you think it does) that there was no fraud. It was a grasp at a straw from someone who can't stand to lose....and to whom lying and throwing your democracy under the bus for even a very slight chance at avoiding it seemed a small price to pay to protect his ego.

    A great deal of trust is placed in politicians. While I think them all unsavoury scoundrels (if you not critical of every one of them, you are part of the problem), such blatant lying and destruction at such a large cost, is a new low no one should find tolerable.
    I have no problem calling out any politician, as far as I see it democrats and republicans are the same people with different agendas. They really are not different in my eyes. I do think the politicians that try to do good are usually the ones that have the most difficult time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcgyver View Post
    I don't think its at all an election integrity issue, its a politician integrity issue. You could devote every resource imaginable to making the perfect election machine and it just wouldn't make any difference if 40% of the people are going believe unwarranted claims from megalomaniac narcissistic liar. That's my non partisan, impartial, capitalist,conservative view...no pony in the race but you're are largest trading partner so we take an interest.
    *"megalomaniac narcissistic PATHOLOGICAL liar. There. I fixed it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAMasochism View Post
    Well the fact that you and those like you completely dismiss anything anyone says as just being "TRUMP" whether they believe in Trump or not doesn't help, but then again, like the dick in your hand, you'll never let it go.
    I don't dismiss anything anyone says but I totally dismiss almost every word from pathological liar trump and any other pathological liars. Over 30,000 lies from trump in four years. Yeah, he's a pathological liar of tremendous proportions. The best pathological liar if there is such a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trueturning View Post
    I suppose you guys will get over it just like we will. Prove they are valid elections by allowing the exact same thing as before dont change it. Then let’s see how you like it.
    You don't need to prove innocence, just guilt. In the absence of guilt, people are presumed innocent. Elections work kind of the same way. You trump cult members seem to believe every lie that trump tells and it's a very sad state of affairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SND View Post
    " Everything Within The State, Nothing Outside The State, Nothing Against The State "

    Fascism was always on the left comrade. Central Command without pretending that its " by the people for the people ", just skip right to the end result.


    Though its always pretty rich for the leftist who is burning books again, breaking glass and banning people, to pretend that its the other side doing it, projecting as usual.
    Looks like even some Canadians are buying into trumps lies. Burning books again? Sounds like something the religious right does. Do they broadcast rush reruns and shawn vanity in Canada or do you get your right wing lies from Alex Jones infowars?

    Maybe you missed it but the publishers of the Dr. Seuss series decided to stop publishing some of the book just like most books go out of print sometimes for various reasons. but keep listening to the liars. They tell you what you want to hear.

    Edit: When you say banning people, do you mean like closing the borders to Muslims or people of other groups? I seem to remember that happening in the last 4 years or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawnrs View Post
    Try to get this through that thick skull of yours, my believe of dishonest elections has nothing to do with Trump. The part where I said corporate America should have been a clue to you.

    I know you are still obsessed with him and you like to speculate or interject trump into the discussion because you just can't stop thinking of him. I know it is tough for a person of your age but try to get over it and move on.
    People will remember trump for a very long time just like they remember people like hitler. For all the wrong reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B View Post
    I don't dismiss anything anyone says but I totally dismiss almost every word from pathological liar trump and any other pathological liars. Over 30,000 lies from trump in four years. Yeah, he's a pathological liar of tremendous proportions. The best pathological liar if there is such a thing.

    I don't know, Obama was pretty good at lying, prevarication and being generally disingenuous.


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    ISIL (ISIS) is a junior varsity team.
    Yemen is the Middle Eastern model of democracy.
    The San Bernardino attack was workplace violence.
    The Fort Hood attack was workplace violence.
    The Taliban is not a terrorist organization.
    10,000 People Died in Kansas Tornado, over 3 times those killed on 911... (Actual study: the real death toll was 12).
    Benghazi was about a movie.
    I never ordered the Taliban swap it was Hagel.
    We won’t negotiate with terrorists. I will close Gitmo.
    Clapper gave me wrong Intel. It’s his fault.
    We are winning in Syria.
    We are winning in Iraq.
    We are winning in Afghanistan.
    I just heard about Gruber before I came to this press conference.(Gruber was the architect of the ACA)
    I promised to end the war in Iraq and I did.
    Tell Vladimir Putin that I can be more flexible after I win the next election.
    Donald Trump will never be the president of the United States.
    I will cut the deficit in half in 3 1/2 years or this will be a one term proposition. [If I don't have this done (cut the national debt in half) in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition. Note: at that time National Debt was $10.6 trillion, but by the end of his second term the national debt is $20 trillion]
    I only found out about it when I saw it on the news.
    I'm not an ideologue.
    Navy Corpse-man.
    They didn't mean "Death to America" in the way you thought it meant.
    I only heard about Hillary Clinton's email account when I saw it on the news.
    If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun.
    I do not deserve the Nobel Peace prize.
    Not even a smidgen of corruption - I will have the most transparent administration in history.
    I have Shovel ready jobs.
    The IRS is not targeting anyone.
    If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon Martin.
    I will put an end to the type of politics that "breeds division, conflict and cynicism".
    You didn't build that.
    I will restore trust in Government.
    The cops acted stupidly.
    I am not after your guns.
    The Public Will Have 5 Days To Look At Every Bill That Lands On My Desk.
    It's not my red line it is the world's red line.
    Whistle blowers will be protected.
    We got back Every Dime we Used to Rescue the Banks, with interest.
    I am not spying on American citizens.
    Obamacare will be good for America.
    You can keep your family doctor. If you like your plan, you can keep it. Period.
    We'll put it on C-Span.
    Your taxes will not go up unless you make more than 250K a year.
    The recession is over.
    We will get to the bottom of this.
    I will not sign the NDAA bill.
    Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers are OK.
    No lobbyists in my administration.
    I'll go through the budget line by line.
    Fast And Furious.
    I've never met the uncle I used to live with.
    I was born in Hawaii.
    I, Barack Hussein Obama pledge to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.
    My mom and Saul Alinski are the two greatest influences in my life. (He hated his white mother and white grandmother and Alinski was a an anarchist who dedicated his life to the downfall of America.)
    Global warming threat is the biggest issue on Americans minds.
    Cuba is our friend.
    Austrians speak Austrian language. (Actually, they speak German)
    The Sequester won't happen.
    Gun control is like car accidents...you cannot stop them all but you should make laws to try.
    We are winning at Pebble Beach, thirty six holes.
    I am a Muslim.
    America is a Muslim Nation.
    And FINALLY, I AM CLOSING GITMO ANY DAY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alloy Mcgraw View Post
    Get ahold of yourself man.

    I could care less to try and convince you of anything....Women have dicks in your mind.

    I was simply addressing Mr. Boat Works and his comment that the Emmys weren't rigged.

    I find comfort in the fact that people like you can't get Trump out of your mind, and it drives you mad. Trump emotionally drains you people...you're easy marks.
    Adolph Hitler lives in many minds many decades after he died. I think trump will live on the same way. Those who forget the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it and we sure as hell don't need that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman109 View Post
    I am a Muslim.
    America is a Muslim Nation.
    Nice fantasy. I hope the LSD have worn off by now, otherwise I'd suggest staying out of the shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman109 View Post
    Sorry, half of the country might think that the election was OK, but there are about 74 million Americans who believe that it was bullshit.

    We both got screwed on the election. We lost our administration in favor of a socialist cabal and you got a demented dummy for a president. Think I'm wrong? The dems even now as I type are planning on doing a 25th Amendment on your dummy.

    Biden's doing one hell of a job.

    1. No press conference in 45 days?
    2. No state of the Union either so Pelosi won't have anything to tear up.
    3. Wide open Southern Border.
    4. Millions out of work in the energy sector and related support industries (Machining, fabrication, etc.)

    You obviously hated Donald Trump but I wonder how you will like Kamala for a president?

    Tough shit for both of us.
    How can anyone be so misinformed or is it just lying?

    1. Press conferences. I've seen Biden on television talking about the virus many times since being duly elected. trump made some changes to not have press conferences at all because the reporters didn't always ask him soft questions. He got really shitty with some reporters for asking him real meaningful questions.

    2. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the SOTU speeches after they have been in office for a year? It seems like there isn't much to report about the state of the union until a president has had time to make some changes.

    3. The border isn't wide open. I'm in Arizona right now and just saw a new story about the border and I can assure you that the border isn't "wide open" any more than I'm Santa Claus. Although I do somewhat resemble him with my current beard.

    4. trump is the first president to have fewer people working when he left office than when he took office. Maybe if he hadn't tried to lie the virus away it would have been better but it is what it is. "the virus is a Democrat hoax". I didn't know that a hoax could kill a half a million humans.

    It must be pretty interesting living in your make believe world. Who dresses you and ties your shoes?

    As to Kamala being president, she would/will be a huge step up from liar trump. I'm ready for her to run our country if need be.

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    Duplicate post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman109 View Post
    I don't know, Obama was pretty good at lying, prevarication and being generally disingenuous.


    I have visited all 57 states.
    If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Premiums will be lowered by $2500.
    ISIL (ISIS) is a junior varsity team.
    Yemen is the Middle Eastern model of democracy.
    The San Bernardino attack was workplace violence.
    The Fort Hood attack was workplace violence.
    The Taliban is not a terrorist organization.
    10,000 People Died in Kansas Tornado, over 3 times those killed on 911... (Actual study: the real death toll was 12).
    Benghazi was about a movie.
    I never ordered the Taliban swap it was Hagel.
    We won’t negotiate with terrorists. I will close Gitmo.
    Clapper gave me wrong Intel. It’s his fault.
    We are winning in Syria.
    We are winning in Iraq.
    We are winning in Afghanistan.
    I just heard about Gruber before I came to this press conference.(Gruber was the architect of the ACA)
    I promised to end the war in Iraq and I did.
    Tell Vladimir Putin that I can be more flexible after I win the next election.
    Donald Trump will never be the president of the United States.
    I will cut the deficit in half in 3 1/2 years or this will be a one term proposition. [If I don't have this done (cut the national debt in half) in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition. Note: at that time National Debt was $10.6 trillion, but by the end of his second term the national debt is $20 trillion]
    I only found out about it when I saw it on the news.
    I'm not an ideologue.
    Navy Corpse-man.
    They didn't mean "Death to America" in the way you thought it meant.
    I only heard about Hillary Clinton's email account when I saw it on the news.
    If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun.
    I do not deserve the Nobel Peace prize.
    Not even a smidgen of corruption - I will have the most transparent administration in history.
    I have Shovel ready jobs.
    The IRS is not targeting anyone.
    If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon Martin.
    I will put an end to the type of politics that "breeds division, conflict and cynicism".
    You didn't build that.
    I will restore trust in Government.
    The cops acted stupidly.
    I am not after your guns.
    The Public Will Have 5 Days To Look At Every Bill That Lands On My Desk.
    It's not my red line it is the world's red line.
    Whistle blowers will be protected.
    We got back Every Dime we Used to Rescue the Banks, with interest.
    I am not spying on American citizens.
    Obamacare will be good for America.
    You can keep your family doctor. If you like your plan, you can keep it. Period.
    We'll put it on C-Span.
    Your taxes will not go up unless you make more than 250K a year.
    The recession is over.
    We will get to the bottom of this.
    I will not sign the NDAA bill.
    Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers are OK.
    No lobbyists in my administration.
    I'll go through the budget line by line.
    Fast And Furious.
    I've never met the uncle I used to live with.
    I was born in Hawaii.
    I, Barack Hussein Obama pledge to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.
    My mom and Saul Alinski are the two greatest influences in my life. (He hated his white mother and white grandmother and Alinski was a an anarchist who dedicated his life to the downfall of America.)
    Global warming threat is the biggest issue on Americans minds.
    Cuba is our friend.
    Austrians speak Austrian language. (Actually, they speak German)
    The Sequester won't happen.
    Gun control is like car accidents...you cannot stop them all but you should make laws to try.
    We are winning at Pebble Beach, thirty six holes.
    I am a Muslim.
    America is a Muslim Nation.
    And FINALLY, I AM CLOSING GITMO ANY DAY.
    I'm not going to waste my time responding to the that trash. Did you cut and paste that from rush limbaughs site or was it alex jones infowars? Maybe Qanon? Lies are all you trump cult members have got but the sane people aren't buying lies anymore. I'm very much looking forward to watching the upcoming trump television show, his trial for crimes committed against the state of New York and the attempted election fraud in Georgia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman109 View Post
    I don't know, Obama was pretty good at lying, prevarication and being generally disingenuous.


    I have visited all 57 states.
    If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Premiums will be lowered by $2500.
    ISIL (ISIS) is a junior varsity team.
    Yemen is the Middle Eastern model of democracy.
    The San Bernardino attack was workplace violence.
    The Fort Hood attack was workplace violence.
    The Taliban is not a terrorist organization.
    10,000 People Died in Kansas Tornado, over 3 times those killed on 911... (Actual study: the real death toll was 12).
    Benghazi was about a movie.
    I never ordered the Taliban swap it was Hagel.
    We won’t negotiate with terrorists. I will close Gitmo.
    Clapper gave me wrong Intel. It’s his fault.
    We are winning in Syria.
    We are winning in Iraq.
    We are winning in Afghanistan.
    I just heard about Gruber before I came to this press conference.(Gruber was the architect of the ACA)
    I promised to end the war in Iraq and I did.
    Tell Vladimir Putin that I can be more flexible after I win the next election.
    Donald Trump will never be the president of the United States.
    I will cut the deficit in half in 3 1/2 years or this will be a one term proposition. [If I don't have this done (cut the national debt in half) in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition. Note: at that time National Debt was $10.6 trillion, but by the end of his second term the national debt is $20 trillion]
    I only found out about it when I saw it on the news.
    I'm not an ideologue.
    Navy Corpse-man.
    They didn't mean "Death to America" in the way you thought it meant.
    I only heard about Hillary Clinton's email account when I saw it on the news.
    If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun.
    I do not deserve the Nobel Peace prize.
    Not even a smidgen of corruption - I will have the most transparent administration in history.
    I have Shovel ready jobs.
    The IRS is not targeting anyone.
    If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon Martin.
    I will put an end to the type of politics that "breeds division, conflict and cynicism".
    You didn't build that.
    I will restore trust in Government.
    The cops acted stupidly.
    I am not after your guns.
    The Public Will Have 5 Days To Look At Every Bill That Lands On My Desk.
    It's not my red line it is the world's red line.
    Whistle blowers will be protected.
    We got back Every Dime we Used to Rescue the Banks, with interest.
    I am not spying on American citizens.
    Obamacare will be good for America.
    You can keep your family doctor. If you like your plan, you can keep it. Period.
    We'll put it on C-Span.
    Your taxes will not go up unless you make more than 250K a year.
    The recession is over.
    We will get to the bottom of this.
    I will not sign the NDAA bill.
    Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers are OK.
    No lobbyists in my administration.
    I'll go through the budget line by line.
    Fast And Furious.
    I've never met the uncle I used to live with.
    I was born in Hawaii.
    I, Barack Hussein Obama pledge to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.
    My mom and Saul Alinski are the two greatest influences in my life. (He hated his white mother and white grandmother and Alinski was a an anarchist who dedicated his life to the downfall of America.)
    Global warming threat is the biggest issue on Americans minds.
    Cuba is our friend.
    Austrians speak Austrian language. (Actually, they speak German)
    The Sequester won't happen.
    Gun control is like car accidents...you cannot stop them all but you should make laws to try.
    We are winning at Pebble Beach, thirty six holes.
    I am a Muslim.
    America is a Muslim Nation.
    And FINALLY, I AM CLOSING GITMO ANY DAY.
    WOW. Talk about an ex president living in the minds of people. Just for comparison here are some of trumps lies. If you plan on reading them all you may need to take a few weeks off from what you have going now. Trump Lies | NRDC

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    Arguing with a communist is like trying to convince a Labrador retriever to stop licking himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sealark37 View Post
    Arguing with a communist is like trying to convince a Labrador retriever to stop licking himself.
    Trying to show a cultist anything factual is like ^^^^...

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    [QUOTE=Newman109;3724271]I don't know, Obama was pretty good at lying, prevarication and being generally disingenuous.

    You moron, you forgot about his phony birth certificate and that his wife was half-monkey! Can't trust you trumper idiots to remember anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 72bwhite View Post
    Get off it oil has always been boom and bust, same for any one who’s business is
    Primarily dependent on oil.
    America spends ten times the education budget on oil and coal subsidies - and that probably is going to stop. It's no suprise those companies are starting to howl like scalded cats. If I had corporate welfare and I thought the sugar tit was gonna get shut off, I'd howl too. Anyway, life's tough all over. A shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim rozen View Post
    America spends ten times the education budget on oil and coal subsidies - and that probably is going to stop. It's no suprise those companies are starting to howl like scalded cats. If I had corporate welfare and I thought the sugar tit was gonna get shut off, I'd howl too. Anyway, life's tough all over. A shame.
    Holy crude, Factman - I didn't know that, and it shale stick with me from now on:

    United States Spend Ten Times More On Fossil Fuel Subsidies Than Education

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