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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatiangirl61 View Post
    I'm still waiting for my turn, they just can't either get or administer more than 50 doses a day. I have no problem with those older than myself getting it first, I do have issues with them vaxxing the population of the prison, most of which are doing hard time, life, or have a date with sparky. They are also vaxxing any retail workers regardless of their age. I'd have a better chance of getting vaxxed today if I was in my 20's, or doing time, and that ain't right.
    I hear you but the method to the madness maybe to protect prison workers and guards. One of the original guidelines was to vax grocery store workers early on. I would have been for that as those people have real exposure and potential to pass it to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmanuelGoldstein View Post
    FredC, you seem rational yet your byline says you're in Texas. What's wrong with those people ? Did they all get dropped on their heads as babies ? Stetsons too tight ? It's like half the red blood cells in your body decided they weren't going to carry oxygen. "Not me, man ! I don't gotta take no steenkin orders !"

    Okay fine, then die, idiots.
    EG, I posted this joke in general not too long ago, maybe you missed it. Many years ago the Democrats controlled the state and had gerrymandered the districts to keep the other idiots out. The joke was just as true for them back then. If you read it before and did not think it was funny, then my apologies.

    Once upon a time in the kingdom of Heaven, God was missing for six days.
    Eventually, Michael the Archangel found him, resting on the seventh day.
    He inquired of God. "Where have you been?"
    God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards
    through the clouds, "Look, Michael. Look what I've made."
    Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is it?"

    "It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put Life on it. I'm going to call
    it Earth and it's going to be a great place of balance."
    "Balance?" Inquired Michael, still confused
    God explained, pointing to different parts of earth. "For example,
    northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth but cold
    and harsh while southern Europe is going to be poor but sunny and
    pleasant. "I have made some lands abundant in water and other lands
    parched deserts. This one will be extremely hot while this one will be
    very cold and covered in ice."

    The Archangel , impressed by God's work, then pointed to a land mass and
    said "What's that one?"

    "Ah," said God. "That's TEXAS -- the most glorious place on earth.

    There are beautiful beaches, streams, hills, and forests. The people from
    TEXAS are going to be handsome, modest, intelligent and humorous and they
    are going to be found traveling the world. They will be extremely
    sociable, hardworking and high achieving, and they will be known
    throughout the world as diplomats and carriers of peace."

    Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed, "What about
    balance, God? You said there would be balance!"

    God replied wisely, "Wait until you see the idiots I put in AUSTIN."

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmanuelGoldstein View Post
    FredC, you seem rational yet your byline says you're in Texas. What's wrong with those people ? Did they all get dropped on their heads as babies ? Stetsons too tight ? It's like half the red blood cells in your body decided they weren't going to carry oxygen. "Not me, man ! I don't gotta take no steenkin orders !"

    Okay fine, then die, idiots.
    Aww, have you not been getting enough bites recently? Cunty thrusters to ze maxIMUM POWER!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatiangirl61 View Post
    I'm still waiting for my turn, they just can't either get or administer more than 50 doses a day. I have no problem with those older than myself getting it first, I do have issues with them vaxxing the population of the prison, most of which are doing hard time, life, or have a date with sparky. They are also vaxxing any retail workers regardless of their age. I'd have a better chance of getting vaxxed today if I was in my 20's, or doing time, and that ain't right.

    Got my first shot at 17:30 GMT today. Second one is due on 26th of May. They've got one hall in a showground (The old Royal Show ground in Warwickshire). They've got five lanes set up, with two lanes treating people at the moment, doing 1052 doses per day. They will open the other three at the end of the month.

    As to vaccinating prisoners, they really should be a priority. In the UK, there were several (Covid) breakouts in prisons and the only way they've had to control it is by keeping the prisoners locked in their cells for 23 hours per day with working, education, excercise and socialising cancelled (Since March last year). With that, one in eight of the total prison population has had covid. You might not think they are deserving cases, but they are, as a population extremely vulnerable to the spread of covid and have no control over whether they are going to get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmanuelGoldstein View Post
    FredC, you seem rational yet your byline says you're in Texas. What's wrong with those people ? Did they all get dropped on their heads as babies ? Stetsons too tight ? It's like half the red blood cells in your body decided they weren't going to carry oxygen. "Not me, man ! I don't gotta take no steenkin orders !"

    Okay fine, then die, idiots.


    Doesn't your shop have a sales counter ?

    One thing you learn in China - don't bother fighting regulations. It's a waste of time. Just go around them
    EG his MO is to attack Southerners and accuse them of being Neo Confederate white supremacists. Texans are one of his favorites because he likes that you fellows are polite and have manners. It reinforces his feeling of well-being because as a child he visited Florida and saw a Black bear in a cage and then seeing Alligator wrestling in St. Augustine he was terrified he might be lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredC View Post
    I am still wearing my mask and will continue even after the governor said it is no longer mandated. Just wanted to see what others were thinking or planning to do. It has been more than a month since our second dose, so our immunity level should be pretty high now. Right now my plan is to mask at least through the summer, then take stock of the situation then. Again mostly for appearance, do not want to encourage any one to unmask thinking "well he is not wearing one, why should I" And then there is that low percentage of those that get it after being vaxed.
    Fred I think the 'masks' are here to stay now mate, despite you being safe and protected, you could have some viable amount of virus land in your schnozzle, even a nano amount excreted from your nasopharynx could find its way into the face of some unsuspecting vulnerable person and you could effectively be guilty of murder kind of . Fauci, the experts expert has made this clear in this video. Plus 'masks' have all but eliminated influenza and all other respiratory disease in the whole world, I saw it on the news
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    Quote Originally Posted by FredC View Post
    I hear you but the method to the madness maybe to protect prison workers and guards. One of the original guidelines was to vax grocery store workers early on. I would have been for that as those people have real exposure and potential to pass it to others.
    True. Assuming all those incarcerated are non redeemable human beings then what can be done when they serve their long sentences and get out of prison? Keep them or discharge them after deliberately neglecting the health of the whole facility both Law enforcement and inmates. When these guys get so mad by being mistreated it is really bad when they begin to riot as they know the punishment for such to be extremely severe. They cross a point of no return when they do that.

    Assuming the legal justice system being just bats a thousand each and every time.

    The guards really do not want close contact really because they do not want COVID. I am sure they have procedures to isolate persons with COVID to prevent many inmates and guards from getting sick that is a goal. Having a pandemic the medical care they have is not fantastic at all and so it just overloads those people and burdens their regular duties also.

    I understand that often persons have been effected directly in their lives by horrible crimes and yet there is the law and that dictates certain things in regard to the humane treatment of even inmates and too international terrorists also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredC View Post
    God replied wisely, "Wait until you see the idiots I put in AUSTIN."
    Funny, thank you ...

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    EG his MO is to attack Southerners and accuse them of being Neo Confederate white supremacists. Texans are one of his favorites because he likes that you fellows are polite and have manners. It reinforces his feeling of well-being because as a child he visited Florida and saw a Black bear in a cage and then seeing Alligator wrestling in St. Augustine he was terrified he might be lunch.
    Never saw alligator rasslin' but did swim with dolphins on Long Key. About the rest, you are mistaken. I went through the south as an impressionable young thing and was shocked by the Colored and White everything. Bathrooms, fountains, cafeterias, get to the back of the bus, we don't serve your type here.

    Southerners are shit. Despicable human beings, that's all there is to it. It's not like the west and california were paradise or anything but the south was too far over the edge, just disgusting. And it was that way for well over a hundred years. Unbelievable. Manners my ass, revolting human beings is what they were/are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmanuelGoldstein View Post
    Funny, thank you ...


    Never saw alligator rasslin' but did swim with dolphins on Long Key. About the rest, you are mistaken. I went through the south as an impressionable young thing and was shocked by the Colored and White everything. Bathrooms, fountains, cafeterias, get to the back of the bus, we don't serve your type here.

    Southerners are shit. Despicable human beings, that's all there is to it. It's not like the west and california were paradise or anything but the south was too far over the edge, just disgusting. And it was that way for well over a hundred years. Unbelievable. Manners my ass, revolting human beings is what they were/are.
    You are that way because you ignore the whole picture. This could temper your view a bit. Jim Crow in the North - In These Times

    My beef is that you use present tense. You overlook a lot of things which are going on in China. Persons are more fair about China than you are the South because there is recognition of good progress in some areas in China.

    You would choose and have continued to ignore changes which have occurred in your own country and still use this present tense language. The people who wrote those laws lived 160 years ago. Time for you to own up to the change.

    Just like those dolphins in the ocean remember it is a big ocean and that there are sharks there too. It means all that you see are the sharks. When a child one will think as a child when a adult they will think as a adult. Some balance is long past due for your outlook.

    Did you go to Disney World EG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutiny View Post
    Congrats. I'm eager for mine.

    My wife is a healthcare worker and got her second dose about a month ago. She had minor symptoms the night after the second dose, low fever and some body aches. Naproxen took care of it in about 30 minutes. Has been a great relief to have someone in the household who can run errands with significantly less risk of contracting.

    Both of my parents received their first dose last week in Texas. Hopefully the current cluster-f there doesn't delay their second dose. They're both high risk and it's a significant weight lifted mentally that they'll be vaccinated soon.

    Didn't know it was so virulent in the Aland islands.

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    Thread has taken a odd turn from Vaxing. Even in this part of the south the we have a funny mix of tolerance and racism. First saw the colored only water fountains on the way to visit relatives in Amarillo when I was a kid. I had to go press the button to see what color the water was. In Fredricksburg they had a celebration a few years ago of the German settlers treaty with the Comanches, apparently the only treaty with the Indians that was fully honored. On my mothers side of the family they had one slave that stayed with the family, she stayed with them till she died and buried as a family member.
    In this area only rarely hear a racist joke and never any angry racist language in addressing individuals. South is a pretty big place with a lot of variety.

    Maybe a joke will help every one be more mellow.

    I did some work this last weekend (job is finished) but thought of this want ad:

    Work assignment: will be to help load the trailer and climb on the brush and compact it so we can get more per trailer load.

    Compensation: Poor rancher can not pay much, compensation will be a firm hand shake and a hearty "thank you"

    Qualifications: Nimble with good balance and high tolerance of pain

    Needed tools: a good set of tweezers

    Think I will get an takers?


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    You need a Thrash-A-Matic®.....

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    Fred, there is a mistake in that ad, tweezers won't work, you need needle nose pliers to remove mesquite thorns.

    I can understand vaxxing the prison guards as they live in the community, the inmates are all doing hard time, its a supermax facility, no one is there for petty crimes, as I said before they are doing hard time, life, or have a date with sparky, if the rona shortens that time, I don't see the problem. If there was plenty of vax, withholding it would be unethical, that is not the case.

    As for the 20 year old kids sacking groceries, they can't be bothered with wearing a mask properly at work, if they can't bother with protecting themselves, I have a hard time understanding why they get vaxxed first. Vaxxing the special interest groups sounds great, but every time that decision is made, someone else does not get vaxxed.

    Nevada issued vax strategy a few months back, they keep modifying it, as someone that is waiting, its getting frustrating.

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    Actually huisatch sp? (pronounced we-satch) many more thorns then mesquite and no good for barbecue. Yeah, needle nose pliers might be better.

    I think the grocery workers were originally recommended because of length of exposure during working hours. Never saw an H E B employee without a mask. Some of the customers were anti maskers, different story at Walmart. Early on we (machinists on this forum) figured out that length time and amount of exposure had a lot to do with who gets it and how bad. People got to eat and someone has to sell the stuff. My hat is off to those people, faced a lot of risks to keep us fed and no where near the recognition doctors and nurses got.

    Balancing act between stopping the C19 fastest and keeping the death rate down among the most vulnerable. Not sure if they will ever get a proper balance. Glad I am not making the decisions. Political pressure has to be unreal also.

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    The State (I had signed up) sent me an email today to schedule a shot. All the possible places were on the other side of the State from me, in low population areas.

    You need to know that I live in the biggest county in the state, with 1/6 of the population of the entire state here. They send 3000 doses per week to us, that's 1500 people per week new, plus 1500 second doses.... Should take about 650 weeks, or around 12 years, to get through all of us.

    Good work on the part of the State Gov.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JST View Post
    Should take about 650 weeks, or around 12 years, to get through all of us.
    Look on the bright side - since transmission rates usually drop off drastically after about 2/3 of the people have some immunity, you're only looking at eight years

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    "...go on to learn to live with covid-19" ?

    If, only IF the medical people come up with a plan to HELP those infected.

    Relying on a vaccine ONLY is a fools errand.
    Covid-19 Pill Shows Promise in Preliminary Testing - WSJ

    looks promising

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    Quote Originally Posted by toolsteel View Post
    Not much to do about getting a vaccine around here yet. I am however enjoying watching the system around here go through the process of deciding who should get it first. Pretty much a no-brainer to give it to medical, first responders and the elderly first. Its the rest of the list I am enjoying watching get debated.....a person might think that those who have been considered essential and have worked through the pandemic from day 1 would be next in line and those who were non essential and those who have been able to work remotely from home might be the last in line.....oh no....cant have that. That would put truck drivers, trash haulers and grocery store clerks in front of politicians, school teachers and paper pushers. The optics of that are not acceptable.
    Must remember your place.....
    2+ weeks later and no noticable change here....but hey....who doesnt think those involved in mink husbandry shouldnt be prioritized above "other" essential workers and those with underlying health conditions?

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    "Geert Vanden Bossche PhD, is an internationally recognised vaccine developer having worked as the head of the Vaccine Development Office at the German Centre for Infection Research.
    Coordinated Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunisation's Ebola Vaccine Program and contributed to the implementation of an integrated vaccine work plan in collaboration with Global Health Partners (WHO, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, CDC, UNICEF), regulators (FDA) and vaccine manufacturers to enable timely deployment or stockpiling of Ebola vaccine candidates.
    Highlighting the principle of using a prophylactic vaccine in the midst of a pandemic. Likely to create more more viral variants in the process.
    Sharing his perspective on mass vaccination in COVID-19."


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    Quote Originally Posted by toolsteel View Post
    Here's another:
    https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...-on-60-minutes

    I'm sure these are on the list for "operation warpspeed" funding and FDA
    expediency....


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