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Something to tell your friends and relatives the next time they say "everything in made in China now"....

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Five myths about manufacturing jobs


By Ro Khanna, Published: February 15 Washington Post

Ro Khanna, a deputy assistant secretary of commerce from 2009 to 2011, is the author of “Entrepreneurial Nation: Why Manufacturing Is Still Key to America’s Future.”
by Ro Khanna In his State of the Union address Tuesday, President Obama said that creating manufacturing jobs is the nation’s “first priority.” To some, this may sound like a throwback to a long-lost era; after all, such jobs are being eliminated, outsourced or automated, right? Not really. The United States remains a world leader in manufacturing, and that sector remains essential to our economic and technological future. Here are the five biggest misconceptions about U.S. manufacturing — and why the sector still matters.

1. A manufacturing job is no longer a ticket to the middle class.
There is no doubt that America’s manufacturing base has declined, peaking at 19.6 million jobs in 1979 and now at just over 11 million jobs. Despite this economic transition, however, U.S. manufacturing jobs are still worth having. On average, full-time manufacturing work pays 20 percent more than full-time service-sector jobs. In my recent travels across the country, I met electronic technicians with only a high school diploma who had risen through the ranks of manufacturing companies to earn more than $100,000 a year. High school grads in retail or service-sector jobs rarely reach six figures.
Of course, manufacturing alone cannot solve our unemployment problem. For the foreseeable future, the lion’s share of America’s job growth will be in the service sector. By 2014, employment in services is expected to reach 129 million jobs, with education and health care growing most quickly. Still, there are lucrative careers available in manufacturing. And Obama’s State of the Union proposal to create manufacturing hubs across the country — “to turn regions left behind by globalization into global centers of high-tech jobs” — will generate opportunities for young Americans with an aptitude for making things.

2. We can outsource manufacturing as long as product design stays here.
Andy Grove, the former chief executive of Intel, has famously argued that the best innovation takes place when design teams are integrated with production teams. Product designers can get feedback about the practical constraints involved in manufacturing and can fine-tune their designs accordingly.
Apple has said that it is investing $100 million in new U.S. plants — a move hailed as bringing manufacturing back to our shores. However, Apple has always done most of its prototype manufacturing in the United States. The company may mass-produce iPhones in China, but it has maintained U.S. factories as laboratories to perfect its products before launch. Now, rising wages in China and transportation costs have encouraged Apple to manufacture some of its Mac lines here.
It is naive to think we can keep design in America without retaining some manufacturing capacity. Harvard Business School professors Willy Shih and Gary Pisano have shown that the offshoring of semiconductor manufacturing that shifted silicon processing to Asia, for example, gave companies there an advantage in designing solar panels and energy-efficient lighting.

3. U.S. manufacturing can’t compete with China.
Over the past decade, the growth of Chinese manufacturing has exceeded America’s, so for the first time, China has taken the lead in global manufacturing. Yet, for all the hype about the BRIC economies — Brazil, Russia, India and China — the United States remains neck-and-neck with China in manufacturing output, and we still far outstrip such traditional powerhouses as Japan and Germany. China and the United States each produce about one-fifth of the world’s manufacturing, yet we do so with only about 10 percent of our economy devoted to that sector, compared with nearly 40 percent of the Chinese economy.
What keeps us in the race is our productivity advantage. U.S. manufacturing workers are almost six times as productive as Chinese workers and 1[SUP]1[/SUP] / [SUB]2 [/SUB]times as productive as those in Japan and Germany.
The best American manufacturers customize products to meet customer needs, reduce the time required to make them and constantly improve their design. Vitamix in Cleveland, for instance, makes specialized blenders that are more expensive than those produced in Asia — but Starbucks buys them because they are quiet and leave few lingering ice chips in Frappuccinos.

4. Manufacturing jobs are repetitive and low-skilled.
If you think of manufacturing as a tedious job with no intellectual stimulation, you haven’t visited a U.S. factory floor lately. Whether making steel bars or suits for firefighters, many of today’s manufacturing jobs require the ability to operate complex machines, math skills and an understanding of how to maximize efficiency.
No doubt, every job has repetitive aspects. As a lawyer, I can assure you that a lot of document drafting is repetitive, involving cutting and pasting from templates. But the best lawyers bring a unique perspective to the process and anticipate clients’ problems. Similarly, the best manufacturing workers are not just doing repetitive tasks; they are thinking about how to improve a product’s design or production.

5. Government is terrible at supporting manufacturing.
America has long had a bipartisan consensus favoring government support for private manufacturers. In 1791, Alexander Hamilton argued that the nation should provide incentives and assistance to manufacturers to compete in the world economy. Even Thomas Jefferson came around to the view that government has a stake in building domestic manufacturing.
These principles influenced Herbert Hoover, who before he was president was regarded as a great commerce secretary and provided financial support for the aviation industry. Later, President Ronald Reagan supported Sematech to help our semiconductor industry.
Of course, America’s free-enterprise system is what enables our manufacturers to be the most innovative. No one is suggesting that the government pick winners or losers. Some bets on new companies, such as Solyndra, are bound to fail.
But such failures should not deter the government from investing in DARPA, a strategic agency at the Defense Department, or ARPA-E, a strategic agency at the Energy Department, which can propel innovation, new technologies and new industries. We also must help keep manufacturers at home through tax incentives, attract immigrants and better prepare a skilled workforce. And we must continue the collaboration between government and business that helped make America an economic superpower.
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I've been on a personal crusade to tell kids about manufacturing and skilled trades for the last four years. I've been warning kids for a decade about the escalating levels of debt they're taking on to study useless materials in four-year degree programs, especially many "liberal arts" programs which are completely nonsense.

Now they're finally starting to listen. When I can point to machine shops that are paying $18 to $20 to start, straight time, with normal 60 hour weeks where they're paid time-n-half for the last 20 hours, with bennies, tool allowances, etc... and then I can point to kids who are in hock to the tun of $30K to $80K for four+ year degrees that have "Would you like fries with that?" as a career future... I start to get through.

There's a huge amount of propaganda out there to overcome, most of it being distributed by clowns in the press, who couldn't even find the "run" button on a CNC machine, much less tell their readers what one does. This "everyone should go to a four-year college" trope that is out there is seriously wrecking a whole lot of young people's lives...
 
IMO, and not just in the USA, manufacturing is suffering a similar fate as farming. The people wielding most influence on decisions sit behind desks and "work" from theories on what should and shouldn't be done, what is right and what's wrong. If politicians and pen pushers could back off more and help WHEN ASKED (and I mean "help" not "hinder") then things would probably get better.

I wonder how many politicians, government and state employees even know first hand anything about what they legislate on? Agriculture and manufacturing are the life blood of any country that truly wants to be independent.

Gordon
 
contrapunkt: Detroit was my home town.

» Bankrupt, Decaying And Nearly Dead: 24 Facts About The City Of Detroit That Will Shock You

Michael Snyder, 4 Feb 2013

If you want to know what the future of America is going to be like, just look at the city of Detroit. Once upon a time it was a symbol of everything that America was doing right, but today it has been transformed into a rotting, decaying, post-apocalyptic hellhole. Detroit was once the fourth-largest city in the United States, and in 1960 Detroit had the highest per-capita income in the entire nation. It was the greatest manufacturing city the world had ever seen, and the rest of the globe looked at Detroit with a sense of awe and wonder. But now the city of Detroit has become a bad joke to the rest of the world. Unemployment is rampant, 60 percent of the children are living in poverty and the city government is on the verge of bankruptcy. They say that Detroit is just a matter of “weeks or months” away from running out of cash, and when Detroit does declare bankruptcy it will be the largest municipal bankruptcy in the history of the United States. But don’t look down on Detroit, because the truth is that Detroit is really a metaphor for what is happening to America as a whole. In the United States today, our manufacturing infrastructure has been gutted, poverty is absolutely exploding and we are rapidly approaching national bankruptcy. Detroit may have gotten there first, but the rest of the country will follow soon enough.

Back during the boom years, Detroit was known for making great cars. Today, it is known for scenes of desolation and decay. It is full of vandalized homes, abandoned schools and empty factories. The following description of what Detroit looks like at this point is from an article by Barry Yeoman…

It’s hard to describe the city’s physical landscape without producing what Detroiters call “ruin porn.” Brick houses with bays and turrets sit windowless or boarded up. Whole blocks, even clusters of blocks, have been bulldozed. Retail strips have been reduced to a dollar store here, a storefront church there, and a whole lot of plywood in between. Not a single chain supermarket remains.

So what caused the downfall of one of the greatest cities on earth?

Well, here is a hint…

Between December 2000 and December 2010, 48 percent of the manufacturing jobs in Michigan were lost.

When you are a manufacturing area, and you lose half of your manufacturing jobs over the course of a single decade, of course things are going to get really, really bad.

So just how bad have things gotten in Detroit?

The following are 24 facts about the city of Detroit that will shock you…

#1 Detroit was once the fourth-largest city in the United States, and it was once home to close to 2 million people. But over the last several decades people have been fleeing in droves. According to the 2010 census, only 713,000 people now live in Detroit, and city officials admit that the population has probably slipped under 700,000 at this point.

#2 The population of Detroit has declined by about 25 percent over the past decade. The last time the population of Detroit was this low was all the way back in 1910.

#3 Today, Detroit is only the 18th-largest city in America. It is now smaller than Austin, Texas and Charlotte, North Carolina.

#4 Back in 1960, the city of Detroit had the highest per-capita income in the United States.

#5 Today, the unemployment rate in Detroit is more than 18 percent, which is more than twice as high as the nation as a whole.

#6 According to a report that was just recently released, approximately60 percent of all children in Detroit live in poverty.

#7 Approximately one-third of Detroit’s 140 square miles are either vacant or derelict.

#8 The city government of Detroit has closed dozens of schools and has decided to cut off public services to the “heavily blighted areas“.

#9 According to one estimate, there are 33,500 empty houses and 91,000 vacant residential lots in the city of Detroit today.

#10 The median price of a home in Detroit is just $9,000, and there are some areas of Detroit where you can still buy a house for $100.

#11 There are more than 85,000 streetlights in Detroit, but thieves have stripped so much copper wiring out of the lights that more than half of them are not working.

#12 Mayor Bing has announced a plan to reduce the number of streetlights in the city of Detroit to just 46,000.

#13 According to one very shocking report, 47 percent of all people living in the city of Detroit are functionally illiterate at this point..

#14 The murder rate in Detroit is 11 times higher than it is in New York City.

#15 There were 377 homicides in Detroit in 2011. In 2012, that number rose to 411.

#16 Justifiable homicide in Detroit rose by an astounding 79 percentduring 2011.

#17 In one recent year, the rate of self-defense killings in the city of Detroit was 2200% above the national average.

#18 Ten years ago, there were approximately 5,000 police officers in the city of Detroit. Today, there are only about 2,500 and another 100 are scheduled to be eliminated from the force soon.

#19 Due to budget cutbacks, most police stations in Detroit are now closed to the public for 16 hours a day.

#20 Crime has gotten so bad in Detroit that even the police are are telling people to “enter Detroit at your own risk“.

#21 At one point, 100 bus drivers in Detroit refused to drive their routes because they were afraid of being attacked out on the streets in broad daylight. The head of the bus drivers union, Henry Gaffney, said that the drivers were literally “scared for their lives“….

“Our drivers are scared, they’re scared for their lives. This has been an ongoing situation about security. I think yesterday kind of just topped it off, when one of my drivers was beat up by some teenagers down in the middle of Rosa Parks and it took the police almost 30 minutes to get there, in downtown Detroit,” said Gaffney.

#22 There have been reports that gangs of young men with AK-47s have been terrorizing gas stations all over Detroit.

#23 Detroit was once known for making some of the greatest cars in the world. Now, it is known around the world as a dumping ground for the dead…

From the street, the two decomposing bodies were nearly invisible, concealed in an overgrown lot alongside worn-out car tires and a moldy sofa. The teenagers had been shot, stripped to their underwear and left on a deserted block.

They were just the latest victims of foul play whose remains went undiscovered for days after being hidden deep inside Detroit’s vast urban wilderness — a crumbling wasteland rarely visited by outsiders and infrequently patrolled by police.

#24 Detroit’s public schools are an absolute nightmare. The following is from one of my readers that actually attended one of the “best” public schools in Detroit…

The school was a new seven story building just a couple of years old. The bathrooms would often lack toilet paper & soap beyond the second floor (the main floor), the bathroom sinks would often not work. The water fountains on north side of the building on from the third floor & up did not work. The elevators would constantly break down. I even got stuck on the elevator before. I almost tripped down a half a flight of stairs because the elastic seal (it was the metal bar at the front of a treader of I don’t know the name of it.) the stairs was not properly installed.

Students would often have sex on the stairs & throughout the school. Parents actually called the school many times & reported kids having sex on the stairs because all of them had glass windows 270 degrees.

Even over in Europe they write stories about the dramatic decline of Detroit. For example, the following is how one British reporter describedhis visit to Detroit…

Much of Detroit is horribly dangerous for its own residents, who in many cases only stay because they have nowhere else to go. Property crime is double the American average, violent crime triple. The isolated, peeling homes, the flooded roads, the clunky, rusted old cars and the neglected front yards amid trees and groin-high grassland make you think you are in rural Alabama, not in one of the greatest industrial cities that ever existed.

For those that want to read even more about the horrifying downfall of Detroit, there are some amazing charts that graphically show the decline of Detroit right here.

So what is the solution?

How can we fix Detroit?

Well, why don’t we just build a monorail! Of course that sounds ridiculous, but the federal government has actually committed $25 million to construct “a streetcar line” that nobody really wants and that very few people would probably actually use. Perhaps they could be excused for wasting so much money on a bad idea if there had not already been 24 failed attempts to develop a successful public transit system in Detroit over the past four decades.

Well, why don’t we just build a bunch of theme parks instead? After all, tourists would just flock to Detroit, right?

It has been suggested that Detroit would be ideal for an “automotive theme park”, and there is actually one group of investors that wants to turn some of the worst areas of Detroit into a “zombie theme park”.

What will they think of next?

Actually, a much better idea would have been to not allow millions of our good paying manufacturing jobs to be shipped to the other side of the world, but it is too late for that at this point.

But once again, please do not look down on the city of Detroit. Instead, let the city of Detroit serve as a warning for the rest of us.

The truth is that the entire U.S. economy is in an advanced state of decline…

-The percentage of the civilian labor force in the United States that is employed has been steadily declining every single year since 2006.

-An astounding 53 percent of all American workers make less than $30,000 a year.

-Amazingly, there are hundreds of thousands of Americans with either Master’s degrees or Ph.D.s that are enrolled in the food stamp program at this point.

We are a nation that consumes far more wealth than we produce, we are a nation that is constantly bleeding jobs, businesses and wealth, and we are a nation that is going deeper into debt with each passing day.

Yes, Detroit may have gone over the edge into economic oblivion first, but the rest of the nation is steamrolling down the exact same path that Detroit has gone.

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Want to make the decline faster? think and act like the Old Wrench,bust more Unions, give in to the Robme types.

old Union words"a injury to one is injury to all"

Gw
 
» Bankrupt, Decaying And Nearly Dead: 24 Facts About The City Of Detroit That Will Shock You

Well take a look at the source. I'd say it's a bit sensationalist wouldn't you? I'd hardly consider Detroit as a metaphor for the entire country. Where I live is pretty damn nice. And if anything it's been getting a lot nicer. I remember back in the 80's downtown Denver and the surrounding neigborhoods were a total dump. Since about 92' the entire downtown has been revamped from a place of abandoned warehouses to renovated neigborhoods. We're even finishing up a new train station. Commuter rail takes you just about everywhere and there are all sorts of infrastructure projects going on all the time. We have had civic leadership that actually cares about the place somewhat though...
 
... We're even finishing up a new train station. Commuter rail takes you just about everywhere and there are all sorts of infrastructure projects going on all the time. We have had civic leadership that actually cares about the place somewhat though...

The continuing Saga of other People's [strike]Money[/strike]Credit.

Is Reuters a good souce?

Denver’s botched FasTracks privatization | MuniLand

Denver’s botched FasTracks privatization
By Cate Long
April 3, 2012

Reuters ran a piece yesterday that caught my eye: “Macquarie eyes $2 billion North American infrastructure fund: sources.” According to the article, Macquarie, the Australian company active in infrastructure privatization, wanted to leverage its prior American success as it begins to raise funds:

Macquarie has also proved successful in bidding for the few new assets on the market. It was behind the largest U.S. infrastructure deals of the last two years – a $2.1 billion project to build and operate commuter rail lines to Denver International Airport and a $1.7 billion upgrade of a tunnel between the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth in Virginia.

The privatization of American infrastructure has become a hot topic, despite the lack of notable success stories. The Macquarie project building and operating commuter rail lines to Denver International Airport illustrates the costs associated with this approach. The project is not doing very well: Because of cost overruns, its budget was recently revised upward, to $7.8 billion.

Once construction is completed, Macquarie will have a concession to run the commuter rail system, an expansion of the Denver Regional Transportation District transit system called FasTracks. The company contributed $2 billion toward the cost of the project, of which $54 million was an equity investment (page 25). The remainder of Macquarie’s portion came from construction payments from the sponsor, the Regional Transportation District, and issuance of $397 million in private activity bonds in 2010. These bonds received the lowest possible investment grade rating, Baa3 and BBB-, demonstrating the weakness of the financing plan.

In partnership with the construction company Fluor, Macquarie became a leader in the Denver project by bidding $300 million lower than its competitors. The company also promised to complete the project 11 months ahead of the 2016 deadline. Unfortunately, they are running behind on these promises, according their February 2012 MSRB filing (pages 13 and 14). Many of the delays are related to the approval of “right of ways,” which could have been encountered even if the project had not been privatized.

The funds that pay for the entire $7.8 billion FasTracks project, beyond the $2 billion portion for which Macquarie is responsible, come mainly from a regional sales tax and federal funds, with a small portion from transit fares. There is some concern among state politicians about the management of the entire project:

A Colorado lawmaker says he will ask for an audit of the Regional Transportation District’s FasTracks program today, citing faulty planning for the Northwest Rail project.

Rep. Spencer Swalm, R-Centennial, said he will request that the Legislative Audit Committee ask State Auditor Dianne Ray to look into the RTD proposal, which critics say led to the squandering of taxpayer money.

“We need to get to the bottom of this,” said Swalm. “RTD has received billions in taxpayer funds, and we need to find out where that money has gone.”

The FasTracks plan led to metro-area voters approving a 0.4-percent sales tax increase in 2004 to fund several commuter-rail lines to be finished by 2020.

Weak planning seems to be a recurring theme in the FasTracks project. These revelations question the value of partially privatizing Denver’s commuter rail system. To complete the project, voters are being asked to support a sales tax increase.

Given the stumbles that FasTracks has had and how many public and private parties are involved, it’s far from clear that Macquarie could claim the Denver project as a success. One thing that is clear from the bond documents is that they intended to sell off their interests in the project long before it was completed (page 11):

Macquarie intends to sell its membership interest in DTH to Uberior Infrastructure Investments (#4) USA LLC [part of the Lloyds Banking Group], an affiliate of Uberior Infrastructure Investments Limited (#4) and to Eagle Rail Holdings Inc, a 100% subsidiary of John Laing Investments on or about the date the series 2010 bonds are issued.

We need more examination of infrastructure privatization, and especially the Denver FasTracks project, before declaring any side a winner.

The spread on those Bonds to the FED discount rate is makeing somebody an obscene amount of money. And that somebody is not in Denver. Maybe Aspen occasionally for vacation. Denver's tax base will have to cover that spead. Making money on the spread is the thing you see. Once the bargain is underwritten and securitized it doesn't matter if the underlying business is a good thing or not.

Money had ought to become worth less the farther it travels.
 
» Bankrupt, Decaying And Nearly Dead: 24 Facts About The City Of Detroit That Will Shock You

I'd hardly consider Detroit as a metaphor for the entire country.
Your example of the situation in Denver left you wide open to <jbc>'s counterpoint, which is valid also. Nonetheless, I agree Detroit is not a metaphor for the entire country. In the USA, jobs are rarely "created" but are mostly "stolen" from other states via county economic development commissions with the more aggressive and enticing incentives. Detroit's losses are someone else's gains.

North to South manufacturing moves over the decades were sometimes union to non union area related, but I suspect it's even as simple as the invention of air conditioning making the South more tolerable climate year round than it was prior.
 
The white/black population graph tells us absolutely nothing of relevance to this topic :rolleyes5:
 
Automation will accelerate the demise of manufacturing jobs while increasing output. I have watched this over the last few years and it is taking off like no ones business.
 
Automation will accelerate the demise of manufacturing jobs while increasing output. I have watched this over the last few years and it is taking off like no ones business.

This is true for agriculture as well, and has been happening for about the same amount of time. Even in the 1960s, an average farm here in the mid west was less than 100 acres. That much land required more than full time work from an entire extended family, and possibly a seasonal hired man. Large outfits with 500 acres or a lot of livestock or a dairy operation required whole crews of employees.

Today, farms get larger and larger and are owned by fewer and fewer. Thousands of acres is common now.

40 years ago a large planter or combine was 4 rows of corn, many were still 2 rows. John Deere is testing a 48 row planter now.

GPS is already capable of mapping fields and guiding tractors. We are a short time from automated planting, tilling, and harvesting.
 
This is true for agriculture as well, and has been happening for about the same amount of time. Even in the 1960s, an average farm here in the mid west was less than 100 acres. That much land required more than full time work from an entire extended family, and possibly a seasonal hired man. Large outfits with 500 acres or a lot of livestock or a dairy operation required whole crews of employees.

Today, farms get larger and larger and are owned by fewer and fewer. Thousands of acres is common now.

40 years ago a large planter or combine was 4 rows of corn, many were still 2 rows. John Deere is testing a 48 row planter now.

GPS is already capable of mapping fields and guiding tractors. We are a short time from automated planting, tilling, and harvesting.

Exactly.
And what do governments do with people to keep them from eating each-other?
You borrow money from China and give it to people in a form of unemplyment, welfare etc.
I was shocked to learn tht entire US budget for social assistance is like $500 billion.

And then people spend this money to buy goods that are made in China.
Talk about sawing off the branch you are sitting on.

In the mean time the 1% who owns and runs this kind of operations is getting richer.

One questions for you guys.
What your government is gonna do when your creditors ask you to return those trillions of dollars in debt the US has accumulated in last 50 years?
 
I am involved in 3 separate projects right now, one with a price tag with a B on the front end. All for companies you are likely acquainted with. New production lines going in with a goal of 10x product out per unit labor. Fork lift operators are gone, semi trucks loaded by LGV's, assembly jigs fully automated and referenced with ceiling mounted laser trackers for precision assemblies over 100 ft long.

My sense is that competitive manufacturing needs to reduce the liability of labor and associated cost of that liability. Health insurance? Labor strikes? Lack of skills? Design the risk and liability out of the process.
 
Mint a few trillion dollar coins and pay up!

Doesn't mr Bernanke wish it was as easy as that ? :)

It was much simpler in the old days.
When you knew that 10 farmers could feed themselves and 20 workers, 1 teacher, 1 policeman, 1 firefighter, 1 soldier, 1 doctor and so on.
Each one could provide just enough service to others to keep everybody happy.
Globalisation and competition disrupted this chain.

But i believe USA will one day exit the WTO - organisation it has one created.
Or atleast change the rules in such a way that no country could screw up another one on its cheap labour force and government subsidies.

Like i said before. Now our company orders tooling from China for a little more than the price of material. The only way we could compete with that would be to fire me and everybody else and replace us with robots. But that would be a little comfort to me.

They are just so effin greedy.!
 
This is true for agriculture as well, and has been happening for about the same amount of time. Even in the 1960s, an average farm here in the mid west was less than 100 acres. That much land required more than full time work from an entire extended family, and possibly a seasonal hired man. Large outfits with 500 acres or a lot of livestock or a dairy operation required whole crews of employees.

Today, farms get larger and larger and are owned by fewer and fewer. Thousands of acres is common now.

40 years ago a large planter or combine was 4 rows of corn, many were still 2 rows. John Deere is testing a 48 row planter now.

GPS is already capable of mapping fields and guiding tractors. We are a short time from automated planting, tilling, and harvesting.


I think you are off a decade or two there bud.

Even the 50's were seeing some good sized equipment - especially out your way.
The Deere R was out in '49

Full Pull!

Boy I missed one by a cpl yrs. By the time I realized what was rotting and sinking in the fenceline of a rented farm - a fella a few yrs older had dug it out. :bawling:

The '10" series was out in '59/'60 with the popular 4010, and up to the 8010 4wd.
(Of course there was the 5010, but we don't need to bring that up...)

The 60 (or even 100) acre family farm was already a fast fading memory in '73.
(I wish I were still there...)

The only thing I seen a 2 row planter used for 40 yrs ago was replanting when 1 row plugged up on the air planter ... and for seeding sweetcorn. (still have for that) The Deere 6600 combine dates back to at least 1970, and that will doo more than 4 x 40" rows. John Deere's 7000 Early Riser No till planter came out in '77.

Guaranteed that this stuff hit your area before it hit here.

..and here's what I think of your GPS guides....

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assembly jigs fully automated and referenced with ceiling mounted laser trackers for precision assemblies over 100 ft long.

Just check the snow load on that roof!
Those things have a habit of taking off on their own track when things git heavy upstairs. LOL!





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This was a bit more than 40 yrs ago
(and the rows were strait and deep then - w/o GPS!)
Ox
 
One of the things I come back to is, first, that we still have plenty of resources to properly feed, house, and care for all of us in this country. Population growth may change this; but for today there is no reason for us to die of starvation, exposure.

Second, that there is plenty of work to be done in every town I've seen; potholes to be filled, bridges to be repaired, kids to be taught, inventions to be invented, cures to be found, buildings to be repaired, sculptures to be sculpted, healthier food to be harvested, discoveries to be discovered, and on and on. No reason why there shouldn't be enough jobs to go around, even if it's just picking up the litter or filling small potholes before they become big potholes.

Seems we should be smart enough to find a way to connect the two. There's plenty to do -- no rule of physics that says we can't have near full employment. And there are plenty of resources -- there's no underlying scarcity that says folks shouldn't be able to make a living doing that all that work.

Decades ago, a college prof said our welfare system essentially amounted to paying poor people to stay out of sight and out of mind. That might have worked in the sixties, but it's not much of a plan for success today.

It's hard for me to imagine a healthy society where only a top few percent (like many of us here) want and find rewarding work.
 








 
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