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    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    You define hatred in a way that suits you
    You 'hated' Obama, so what?

    HE is in fact a moron, I have met many likeable morons, he is not one of them

    You personally define that my/our 'hatred' of trumpski is because I/we cannot get over that Clinton lost the election
    This is convenient because you do not then have to come up with a rational narrative of why he is actually qualified to be in the office, why you support him even though he changes positions on issues constantly, makes our country look foolish, and is nakedly corrupt
    You should then try to vote him out of office. There are some candidates on the democrat side that might interest you. They are all rather far left.

    1. Abortion at 9 months.
    2. Free health care for all. Removing health care for 165 million Americans who presently have excellent health care.
    3. Open borders, no ICE or Border Patrol, No walls.
    4. Reparations for all Black people who are presently living.
    5. Tax increases to pay for all of the above.

    By the way, where is the "People's Republic"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman109 View Post
    You should then try to vote him out of office. There are some candidates on the democrat side that might interest you. All of them are communists however.
    None of them are communists, which is just another way that you deflect and avoid having an actual point. Or you don't actually know what the term means.

    you want a Communist President, vote for trumpski, that is what it will get you, in the long run. for every action, equal and opposite reaction etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman109 View Post
    There are many more jobs presently because of Donald Trumps policies. He''s doing what he can with a renegade Congress. The buildings and television work are behind him but were still quite creative.

    You couldn't make a wart on Trump's behind.
    Thankfully I am not a wart on his ass,but if I was you couldn't see me for your face kissing his ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazygoat View Post
    Thankfully I am not a wart on his ass,but if I was you couldn't see me for your face kissing his ass.
    Man, you can really feel the love in this room!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    None of them are communists, which is just another way that you deflect and avoid having an actual point. Or you don't actually know what the term means.

    you want a Communist President, vote for trumpski, that is what it will get you, in the long run. for every action, equal and opposite reaction etc
    Evidence please.

    Oh, and while your digging, please quote some reliable sources of just how the POTUS is a "racist".

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    Evidence please.

    Oh, and while your digging, please quote some reliable sources of just how the POTUS is a "racist".
    evidence of what exactly?

    trying to prove a negative, please, go back to kindergarten

    trump is a racist
    1] 1973 settled with justice department for racial discrimination in housing
    A quote from the investigator
    "He was exactly the way he is today. He said to me at one point during a coffee break, “You know, you don’t want to live with them either.”"
    they settled and signed a consent decree

    Racist

    2] 1993 hearings WRT Indian Casinos
    bill richardson: The second allegation he made that was very disturbing at that hearing was to examine some Native American tribes’ application as Indian tribes—they were trying to get the subcommittee to basically declare their tribes or their group of individuals Native Americans. Trump mentioned Native Americans who had recently opened casinos and said to George Miller, “They don’t look like Indians to me.” He said that. It was so outrageous.

    Still Racist

    3]Racism on his TV show
    In the summer of 2005, Donald Trump had an idea: What if the next season of his reality-TV show, The Apprentice, pitted “a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites”? Trump thought the format would be a sort of social commentary—“reflective of our very vicious world.” The concept never made it to air, but Trump’s treatment of black contestants on his show generated controversy.

    One contestant, Kevin Allen, a graduate of Emory University, the University of Pennsylvania, and the University of Chicago, was criticized by Trump on the show for being too educated; at the same time, Trump suggested that Allen was personally intimidating.
    Randal Pinkett, a black man and the show’s 2005 winner, was asked by Trump to share his title with the white runner-up, Rebecca Jarvis. Pinkett refused. As the winner, he later worked briefly for the Trump Organization.

    Still racist

    4]Birtherism
    Trump did not let up. In May 2012, he told the CNN host Wolf Blitzer that “a lot of people do not think it was an authentic certificate.” In August, he called the birth certificate “a fraud.” Finally, in September 2016, under political pressure during his presidential campaign, Trump acknowledged that Obama had in fact been born in the United States. That was not the end of the matter. In November 2017, The New York Times reported that Trump was still privately asserting that Obama’s birth certificate may have been fraudulent.

    5] 'go back to their huts
    He reportedly referred to African countries as “shithole” nations—asking why the U.S. can’t have more immigrants from Norway instead—and complained that, after seeing America, immigrants from Nigeria would never “go back to their huts.”

    Racist

    6] good people on both sides after a right wing protestor ran down and killed a counter demonstrator




    I realize you cannot admit to supporting an avowed racist, but that is the truth of it.

    He is and always has been a racist.

    He is and always has been a cheat and a liar.

    He is and always has been a piece of human garbage and he permanently debases the office he holds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottl View Post
    Man, you can really feel the love in this room!
    As the Nazareth song says, love hurts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    6] good people on both sides after a right wing protestor ran down and killed a counter demonstrator
    The woman who died, not because she was struck by the vehicle, but because she was terribly obese? Who was part of the group that showed up with out a permit looking for a fight? The group that was blocking traffic and began beating on the guys vehicle? He was railroaded to make an example out of him. The verdict was already in place before that kangaroo court even began.

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    Well, if the USA is not going to buy Greenland, I am.

    I just need to find a few oligarchs to co-sign my loan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAMasochism View Post
    The woman who died, not because she was struck by the vehicle, but because she was terribly obese? Who was part of the group that showed up with out a permit looking for a fight? The group that was blocking traffic and began beating on the guys vehicle? He was railroaded to make an example out of him. The verdict was already in place before that kangaroo court even began.
    Liar

    She died because a violent racist piece of garbage ran her the hell over

    and let us be clear, the protestors who killed her are admitted proud racists, and support of them is support of racists, there is no way around that

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    on the night of Friday, August 11, 2017, hundreds of neo-Nazis and white supremacists marched onto the University of Virginia’s campus in Charlottesville chanting “Jews will not replace us” and “Blood and soil,” a Nazi slogan.


    On August 12, a black man named DeAndre Harris was beaten by at least four white supremacists. At about 1:45 p.m. that day, James Alex Fields Jr., a 20-year-old white supremacist from Ohio, drove his Dodge Challenger into a crowd of counterprotesters, killing 32-year-old Heather Heyer and injuring 35 others. Fields was convicted in December 2018 of first-degree murder.

    Let us not re write history, these were violent nazis, racists who ganged up on a black man, and who ran over 36 people

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    Lefties been blowing the same rape whistle for so long no one even notices anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ H View Post
    Lefties been blowing the same rape whistle for so long no one even notices anymore
    was this pretending to be on topic

    are you trying to imply that the protestors were not racist garbage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    are you trying to imply that the protestors were not racist garbage?
    Oh the ones that came with out a permit and started fights were definitely garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazygoat View Post
    Thankfully I am not a wart on his ass,but if I was you couldn't see me for your face kissing his ass.
    That sounds like something a Southern boy would say. Not sure what it means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman109 View Post
    That sounds like something a Southern boy would say. Not sure what it means.
    What part of being an ass kisser did you not understand? Tell me and I will try to clear it up for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazygoat View Post
    What part of being an ass kisser did you not understand? Tell me and I will try to clear it up for you.
    Sure. Please tell me how you do it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post

    trump is a racist
    1] 1973 settled with justice department for racial discrimination in housing
    That situation was a little more complicated than you make it sound. A civil rights body wanted him to agree with some affirmative action type rules that would have made that body a party to all decisions as to who to rent to. This was after all private property built with private funds, not public housing, a distinction that is lost on socialists. He settled to avoid even more draconian penalties and then decided to abandon the housing market and build hotels and casinos.

    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    2] 1993 hearings
    WRT Indian Casinos bill richardson: The second allegation he made that was very disturbing at that hearing was to examine some Native American tribes’ application as Indian tribes—they were trying to get the subcommittee to basically declare their tribes or their group of individuals Native Americans. Trump mentioned Native Americans who had recently opened casinos and said to George Miller, “They don’t look like Indians to me.” He said that. It was so outrageous.
    That has been a controversial subject for years. Many feel that Indian tribes are given an unfair advantage in the casino business and some of the "tribes" absolutely seem to be an artificial grouping of people with little actual links to the original tribe.

    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    3]Racism on his TV show
    In the summer of 2005, Donald Trump had an idea: What if the next season of his reality-TV show, The Apprentice, pitted “a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites”?
    Source for that? Or is that just more of the political slander that has been aimed at him since he announced his candidacy.

    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    4]Birtherism
    Trump did not let up. In May 2012, he told the CNN host Wolf Blitzer that “a lot of people do not think it was an authentic certificate.” In August, he called the birth certificate “a fraud.”
    There's a lot of reason to believe that. Among other things the race of the father was listed as "African American" instead of "Negro", a term that did not come into use until decades later.

    Also, I have a question. If he was born Barack Obama how did he become Barry Sotero when his stepfather adopted him? Why wasn't it Barack Sotero? Could it be that he was actually born Barry Dunham, the illegitimate son of an American Black and that wasn't as attractive a story for the voters?

    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    5] 'go back to their huts
    He reportedly referred to African countries as “shithole” nations ....
    He referred to A LOT of countries as shithole nations and if that assessment is wrong why are so many fleeing those countries to come here?

    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    6] good people on both sides after a right wing protestor ran down and killed a counter demonstrator
    Exactly ONE person drove a car into a mob of demonstrators. Not everyone at the "Unite the Right" rally was a neo-Nazi or white supremacist. It originally was just supposed to be a protest against the "politically correct" removal of historic statues. The guy who came up with the idea to expand it was a former(?) Hillary Clinton supporter who supposedly had a "racial awakening". It was originally touted as a gathering of conservatives and several scheduled speakers cancelled at the last minute when they found out he had invited neo Nazis. Many of the ordinary people who attended probably had no idea of the scum who were also coming. IMO they fell into a carefully crafted trap.

    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    on the night of Friday, August 11, 2017, hundreds of neo-Nazis and hite supremacists marched onto the University of Virginia’s campus in Charlottesville chanting “Jews will not replace us” and “Blood and soil,” a Nazi slogan.
    Again, there's no proof that all of the people who marched there were neo-Nazis and white supremacists or were chanting with them. IMO the whole thing was a setup designed to smear conservatives and Trump supporters. Guilt by association, whether that association was voluntary or planned.

    Tell me, If you were participating in a peaceful demonstration with hundred of others and a dozen people suddenly started breaking windows and starting fires are YOU responsible for their behavior?

    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    On August 12, a black man named DeAndre Harris was beaten by at least four white supremacists. At about 1:45 p.m. that day, James Alex Fields Jr., a 20-year-old white supremacist from Ohio, drove his Dodge Challenger into a crowd of counterprotesters, killing 32-year-old Heather Heyer and injuring 35 others. Fields was convicted in December 2018 of first-degree murder.
    Yeah, "at least four" out of all who attended. We already know SOME neo-Nazis and white supremacists were there and they can be really nasty people so it's not surprising they would gang up on a black man.

    Fields WAS apparently a guy with radical leanings but there's no proof he turned onto that street intending to run over people. I've seen the map of the route he took and SOMEONE blocked the road on the other side of the street so instead of going straight across he was forced to turn left which led straight to an intersection blocked by a mob that contained many ANTIFA members. Had he been able to drive straight ahead instead of being forced to turn left that road leads back to the highway.

    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    Let us not re write history, these were violent nazis, racists who ganged up on a black man, and who ran over 36 people
    Yes, "at least four" ganged up on a black man and ONE drove into a crowd causing injuries and one death. But don't let that stop you from blaming all conservatives and Trump supporters.

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    I'm sorry, Scott, your rebuttal is weak, very weak.

    The organization that marches was white supremacist, period

    Your excuses for a guy who injured 36 people and killed one are pathetic, he did it on purpose, jury of his peers. Oh, but when minorities are suspected of being in the wrong place, well, death penalty,their fault, but a white guy convicted by a jury of his peers, well, obviously railroaded

    Pathetic and weak

    Birtherism, especially 8 years later, racist

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    I think he probably is a racist, but first off define the term.

    Calling African countries shitholes doesn't remotely sound racist, more like a statement of fact. And some housing regulation? The way the race card is constantly abused in the context a myriad of officialdom racist rules and policies results in it having zero credibility with me. Some deadbeat gets turned down and if he's a minority and guess what happens next? Like I say I think you are probably right, but I see neither of those as any sort of evidence or proof of racism (whatever that is)


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