Mitch Free (MFG.COM) STARTED A COMPANY

MBG · Feb 26, 2014

I came across this information.

Why I Am Bullish On American Manufacturing - Forbes

Contact Info | ZYCI - CNC Machining

I found this funny becuase everybody labels this guy as the manufacturing dweeb.

ewlsey · Feb 26, 2014

No. People think he's a worthless asshole. Now he started his own shop to compete with everyone else in the race to the bottom. What an asshole.

You have to love his ethics.

kustomizingkid · Feb 26, 2014

He sure looks like a Turbo Douche.

metlmunchr · Feb 26, 2014

Go here Inconel Fittings Machined For A Fortune 100 Customer | ZYCI - CNC Machining Click on the pic to enlarge it and check out the "demanding surface finish requirements" on those threads.

moonlight machine · Feb 26, 2014

ewlsey said:
No. People think he's a worthless asshole. Now he started his own shop to compete with everyone else in the race to the bottom. What an asshole.

You have to love his ethics.

I don't know of him, old friend of yours?

moonlight machine · Feb 26, 2014

metlmunchr said:
Go here Inconel Fittings Machined For A Fortune 100 Customer | ZYCI - CNC Machining Click on the pic to enlarge it and check out the "demanding surface finish requirements" on those threads.

Sweeet! done with a cnc chainsaw!

ewlsey · Feb 26, 2014

He's the one who rips everyone off with mfg.com. Now he has his own shop to bid on the work on his own site.

scadvice · Feb 26, 2014

ewlsey said:
He's the one who rips everyone off with mfg.com. Now he has his own shop to bid on the work on his own site.

So...does he now send the jobs out for quote... then use your 'quote' thereby saving time on his end not having to put labor into quote? Just wondering?

I apologize Lord...I couldn't resist...(I'll probably go to Hell for that one).... :stirthepot:

Miguels244 · Feb 26, 2014

scadvice said:
So...does he now send the jobs out for quote... then use your 'quote' thereby saving time on his end not having to put labor into quote? Just wondering?

I apologize Lord...I couldn't resist...(I'll probably go to Hell for that one)....

I have seen that done.
Worse I have seen my designs sitting on a customers floor...pulled directly off my proposal and covered in Chinese stickers.
Sort of upset me...fortunately that was in CA so I wasn't armed.

RebHawk · Feb 26, 2014

metlmunchr said:
Go here Inconel Fittings Machined For A Fortune 100 Customer | ZYCI - CNC Machining Click on the pic to enlarge it and check out the "demanding surface finish requirements" on those threads.

I think a drunk with only a 60 deg. file could have cut the threads better than that... Then again... maybe that's what he's using

--Hawk

LKeithR · Feb 26, 2014

moonlight machine said:
Sweeet! done with a cnc chainsaw!

Apparently ^ this is too short so I have to type all this crap when I just wanted to be succinct and funny...

Miguels244 · Feb 27, 2014

RebHawk said:
I think a drunk with only a 60 deg. file could have cut the threads better than that... Then again... maybe that's what he's using

--Hawk

Damn that's ugly.
If I were the QA guy that would be recycled.
I like how they didn't bother cleaning the part before presenting it.

Milacron · Feb 28, 2014

The boy must have the gift of gab.....amazing all this investment for something that no one seems to actually benefit from. I really don't get it.... someone, somewhere must be doing well with their presense on the site, but how that could be is beyond my comprehension.

Out of the entire English speaking world, how many have come on PM since the year 2000 to report they did ok with them... one ? two ?

MFG.com Raises $26 Million From Fidelity Ventures, Goes After Alibaba | TechCrunch

I thought it would have died out by now but it seems just the opposite. I really don't get it.

ewlsey · Feb 28, 2014

Milacron said:
I thought it would have died out by now but it seems just the opposite. I really don't get it.

Have you seen American Hustle? It's probably the same deal. mfg.com says "we can get you all kinds of work, we just need some cash up front". Then after you have paid, "sorry, the market is slow".

Mr.M · Feb 28, 2014

The spelling is worse than mine on the website!
The pictures look like ones taken out from MMS adds also.

Milacron · Feb 28, 2014

ewlsey said:
Have you seen American Hustle? It's probably the same deal. mfg.com says "we can get you all kinds of work, we just need some cash up front". Then after you have paid, "sorry, the market is slow".

Right, but each shop that tries it with no results would not resign and eventually the new signees would slow. If Bezo's and other venture capitalists were not involved I'd be thinking Ponzi scheme, but I have a hard time believing folks as sharp as them wouldn't be looking into to the customer repeat rates and other positive indicators before throwing in yet more money.

Bezo's himself is probably the busiest person on the planet, so maybe not paying attention to his MFG.com investment anymore....but one would think he has some sharp "people" looking at this with an unemotional eye and very sharp pencils.

I suppose the folks that are having success with them wouldn't be too inspired to come on here with their tales of glory as they would fear more folks signing up and therefore more competition, but from the tales of woe we do hear about I can't see how it works for anyone. It would be fascinating for someone like MMS magazine to do a survey of the most successful shops to see if any of them get work via their MFG.com presence.

Could it really be all about super aggressive telephone marketing and nothing more ? I mean, you wanna talk aggressive marketing...think BobCad and Bandsawblades.com.... but as irritating as they are, at least they are selling something that a fair number of people make good use of. And yet with MFG.com we essentially NEVER hear of anyone making good use of it. So, I say again...I don't get it. :confused:

Guest · Feb 28, 2014

I use to see threads about ex MFG users wanting to file class action suits, I figure some lawyer would take him down, but it hasn't happened. I bet his CNC shop mostly outsources to the lowest bidder on MFG.com and then pays them in free subscriptions.

Milacron · Feb 28, 2014

Dualkit said:
I use to see threads about ex MFG users wanting to file class action suits, I figure some lawyer would take him down, but it hasn't happened.

With all the millions in investment capital, his new shop is yet another mystery..I mean, with all that money coming into the site, why bother with a shop whose profits, if any, would be lost change in the couch compared to what the website brings in ? The shop might be mostly for show.

Zahnrad Kopf · Feb 28, 2014

Milacron said:
I thought it would have died out by now but it seems just the opposite. I really don't get it.

The longer I'm alive, the more I find myself saying those words... and with more frequency...

dstryr · Feb 28, 2014

I got lucky with mfg.com. I talked him into doing a 6 month half off trial and I scored 2 great repeat customers off the site. I mostly used it for lead generation and talked to the customers directly versus quoting off the site. I paid $2500 for 6 months and have done about $75k in work off those 2 leads over 2 years. I did do a lot of contacting though. Pretty much anyone who posted an RFQ for machining got hit up lol.

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