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    Quote Originally Posted by PDW View Post
    On tariffs for imports into the UK, that's totally under the control of your elected representatives. We know how that works out in practice..... 100% tariffs on Aussie lamb comes to mind, plus a quota.
    Only because you've been shipping 'em already DEAD in reefers. Buy each of em a thong bikini, teach 'em a few baaaaaah's with a former Sov-Bloc accent, book 'em on a passenger liner, and let 'em earn their passage with their passage and send money home.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post
    Only because you've been shipping 'em already DEAD in reefers. Buy each of em a thong bikini, teach 'em a few baaaaaah's with a former Sov-Bloc accent, book 'em on a passenger liner, and let 'em earn their passage with their passage and send money home.

    Is there that much Welsh blood in you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    Is there that much Welsh blood in you?
    Sheep lie.

    And Somerset, actually. But yah wuddn' want to waste the better attributes of a tall pair of Wellies over being more South Saxe than Breton, wud yah? What's China-joe Biden keep sayin'.. with 'is back to the wall?

    "Not a racist bone in my body!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteM View Post
    Spinit, a majority in South Carolina hate Denmark? Better tell these guys to get out quick, while they still can:

    Charleston, South Carolina
    I am not saying that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinit View Post
    I am not saying that.
    Actually, you sort of did. Just pointing it out.

    FWIW, it seems this forum is now running it's own "Robbers Cave" experiment (look it up) -- only without even the justification of competing for scarce resources. Not so different than the hater-in-chief now running this country -- and the conflict it spurs all around us.

    Who doesn't kind of like Denmark? People who have never been there? Do you have to despise Carlsberg beers, Danfoss or Grundfos pumps, take the Legos away from your kids, and refuse life-saving treatments from Novo Nordisk to be a true hater? Forget they're a long-time ally? Maybe refuse to see any movie with Scarlett Johansson in it, what with the Danish father and all?

    Seems to me that both this forum, and this country, could do with a bit more mutual appreciation; rather than insults?

    I work up this morning to hearing of a third mass shooting in the past week -- and the tone of our country is at least partly complicit. As moderator, you have a choice to participate in partisanship or, um, moderate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteM View Post
    Actually, you sort of did. Just pointing it out.

    FWIW, it seems this forum is now running it's own "Robbers Cave" experiment (look it up) -- only without even the justification of competing for scarce resources. Not so different than the hater-in-chief now running this country -- and the conflict it spurs all around us.

    Who doesn't kind of like Denmark? People who have never been there? Do you have to despise Carlsberg beers, Danfoss or Grundfos pumps, take the Legos away from your kids, and refuse life-saving treatments from Novo Nordisk to be a true hater? Forget they're a long-time ally? Maybe refuse to see any movie with Scarlett Johansson in it, what with the Danish father and all?

    Seems to me that both this forum, and this country, could do with a bit more mutual appreciation; rather than insults?

    I work up this morning to hearing of a third mass shooting in the past week -- and the tone of our country is at least partly complicit. As moderator, you have a choice to participate in partisanship or, um, moderate it.
    Sort of? These are your words not mine. Socialism to me is not what I would chose and mostly I am in disagreement with that. I do not like Communism either. You can frame my words into anything yet it does not mean you give a fair appraisal of my comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinit View Post
    Sort of? . . .
    Spinit: what you said:

    - There are tandem culprits (CG & Gordon, I presume).
    - Crazy is fond of Denmark and socialism in general (though he says he's never been there and doesn't have an opinion).
    - For South Carolina his viewpoints (fond of Denmark and socialism, you say) are the minority.
    - (Instead,) lots of people there still salute the flag.

    Seemed to me the, perhaps unintended, conclusion is that you don't think most people in S.C. like neither Denmark or guys like "Crazygoat." What with them being damned socialists and all.

    Now that might actually be true, though most probably know little to nothing about the country. Might also be that most aren't so hostile to Denmark, except maybe when they step on one of their kids' Legos?

    My suggestion is that, as moderator, you might lighten up on calling members culprits and vaguely anti-American (being that non-flag waving, Denmark-fond, socialist and Medicare tolerating minority you see C.G. as part of).

    PS - please be sure not to ride public highways or use police, fire, or public water and sewer services. Avoid the Internet to access this forum and Social Security or Medicare when you retire. Don't use insurance or accept disaster relief. Ignore all publicly funded research (from weather forecasting to genome-based medicine) and dissolve the Armed Forces.

    They're all socialist conspiracies, paid for by citizens.

    The fact is that virtually every free world democracy has a mixed economy with some capitalist and some socialist elements. In some ways they need each other. Democracy to temper the greed and fraudulent extremes of capitalism. Capitalism and free markets to create competition to better serve customers and citizens. Could be this forum, similarly, benefits from a diversity of opinion. As the moderator, it's not your role to insult other members who views you disagree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteM View Post
    As the moderator, it's not your role to insult other members who views you disagree with.[/COLOR]
    As the moderator, he has every right to define his own role.

    And for the record ,I didn't see any "insult". I saw a member of the forum (who just happens to the moderator sometimes) voicing his opinion.

    First amendment, and all that.

    Flame on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinit View Post
    Sort of? These are your words not mine. Socialism to me is not what I would chose and mostly I am in disagreement with that. I do not like Communism either.
    sigh. what do you think socialism is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcgyver View Post
    sigh. what do you think socialism is?
    Eh wot? Just a flavour of Communism where the control tool of choice is an economic garrote instead of Khmer Rouge bludgeons or Lev Trotsky's mercenary firing squads do yah?

    Dead at the hand of looters allocating Other People's Money is dead, either way. It is only how quickly that differs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderjet View Post
    As the moderator, he has every right to define his own role.

    And for the record ,I didn't see any "insult". I saw a member of the forum (who just happens to the moderator sometimes) voicing his opinion.

    First amendment, and all that.

    Flame on.
    Yet when other members voice their opinion he tells them they are insulting( presumably to him). Even you must admit that Spinit has been heavy handed at times by banning people who don't agree with his views and deleting posts from the same. In that respect he has seemed to cool it from that here lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcgyver View Post
    sigh. what do you think socialism is?

    The United States is not considered a socialist state. A link; Is America a socialist or capitalist country? - Quora

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazygoat View Post
    Yet when other members voice their opinion he tells them they are insulting( presumably to him). Even you must admit that Spinit has been heavy handed at times by banning people who don't agree with his views and deleting posts from the same. In that respect he has seemed to cool it from that here lately.
    You are insulting.

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    Types of governments: Are we moving from republic to oligarchy, maybe were already there. This short vid explains the different types of gov (even mentions socialism) in easy to understand language.
    YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinit View Post
    The United States is not considered a socialist state. A link; Is America a socialist or capitalist country? - Quora
    I feel like a broken record. Socialism is what Russia was, a lot of China still is, Cuba almost all still is etc - think Mao and Lenin. What you think of as communism is a socialist state, communism is more about the political model, socialism describing the economic one. Perhaps you are confusing socialism with a social democracy, i.e. high tax high spend countries. There are elements of socialism is every country, i.e. roads or health care for many, but you label an economy by its predominate economic model. Pretty much every country you can think of, including Denmark, is a market based capitalist economy.

    Its important to get this right. Astoundingly there's ignorant masses out there wishing for the bloody thing (socialism) obvious to the fact that it produces the most tyrannical and economic failures in modern history.

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    that should be in the stickies Mac....heck, even I used to confuse them.

    i do not want socialism, however I do want a more efficient and transparent capitalism based system that encourages manufacturing and business in general.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinit View Post
    You are insulting.
    I give up! The last sentence of my post was a compliment to you. Yet you find that insulting?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcgyver View Post
    I feel like a broken record. Socialism is what Russia was, a lot of China still is, Cuba almost all still is etc - think Mao and Lenin. What you think of as communism is a socialist state, communism is more about the political model, socialism describing the economic one. Perhaps you are confusing socialism with a social democracy, i.e. high tax high spend countries. There are elements of socialism is every country, i.e. roads or health care for many, but you label an economy by its predominate economic model. Pretty much every country you can think of, including Denmark, which is a market based capitalist economy.

    Its important to get this right. Astoundingly there's ignorant masses out there wishing for the bloody thing (socialism) obvious to the fact that it produces the most tyrannical and economic failures in modern history.
    Social Democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinit View Post
    Social Democracy.
    AKA "mob rule by the looters."

    Call it what it is, same as you would use a micrometer.

    Or suffer a 100% scrap rate in due course. Proven history, Big Bang onward. Either one.

    The only place left to argue is over which of the alternatives as actually WORK have what degree of merit. Or not.

    That simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinit View Post
    Social Democracy.
    The main countries that have embraced social democracy are the Nordic countries. The United Nations published in 2018 a global report ranking the happiest countries in the world. The top five, in order, were (1) Finland, (2) Norway, (3) Denmark, (4) Iceland and (5) Switzerland.May 22, 2017

    What countries have social democracy? - Quora

    Social democracy - Wikipedia


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