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    Now it's official. China has suspended importing agricultural products from the USA. Now what?

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    Is that "fake news"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post
    Now it's official. China has suspended importing agricultural products from the USA. Now what?
    Now we cut off the rest of their food supply and starve 'em out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucktruck View Post
    I would love to hear your definition of fake news. Hint: It is NOT what the POTUS has you believing it is.
    Janet Cooke would be an extreme example but she is not the exception. She just went a teensy bit too far. Most "news" these days is emotionally overladen, poorly researched, unverifiable, story-telling. A better word would be propaganda.

    Trump's use of the word is for his own purposes but the fact is, the news today is pretty much bread and circuses to keep us diverted from doing anything meaningful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post
    Now it's official. China has suspended importing agricultural products from the USA. Now what?
    No big deal for those hit as the US treasury will cover and if needed will pay you not to plant crops.
    I know people who plowed growing fields under as it was better money.
    That seems silly but dollars in your checkbook in the farmland account.

    China has a card to play but is lower on the deck.
    Perhaps we do not get that the lower cards can kill you.
    This game the POTUS plays is interesting with China.
    We do not think them a world power and have so much trade.

    Strange, obsessive, commie dickheads and undercutting our wages but maybe good for us.

    What the fuck made Japan come hard at the the USA.
    Now we do the same. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarbideBob View Post
    This game the POTUS plays is interesting with China.
    We do not think them a world power and have so much trade.

    Bob
    The big problem might be if anyone regards it as a game. One way or another it will affect millions of people.

    OEC

    - China (CHN) Exports, Imports, and Trade Partners


    List of the largest trading partners of China - Wikipedia

    Chinese economy: China releases June trade data, exports and imports

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post
    LoL

    Well, you can come down on either side you want, but I am sure glad the US military will be defending me when/if it comes to it, not Denmark's!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post
    Is this fair or not because a $500 traffic fine isn't the same for Bill Gates as it is for me?
    In Finland, speeding tickets are linked to your income | World Economic Forum
    So you own a large company. Live in the corporate mansion, fly in the corporate jet, drive the corporate Rolls Royce and use the corporate credit card to buy clothes and meals. You pay yourself $500 a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by converterking View Post
    So you own a large company. Live in the corporate mansion, fly in the corporate jet, drive the corporate Rolls Royce and use the corporate credit card to buy clothes and meals. You pay yourself $500 a week.
    You should have started that with "Once upon a time …" and ended it with "and they all lived happily ever after".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post
    You should have started that with "Once upon a time …" and ended it with "and they all lived happily ever after".
    Think outside the box.

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    Dow closes 767 down. Worst stock day of the year.

    Tell me again how escalating the trade war is good for anybody?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post
    You should have started that with "Once upon a time …" and ended it with "and they all lived happily ever after".
    Gordon, you are right. If you had any money, you wouldn't live in Finland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by converterking View Post
    So you own a large company. Live in the corporate mansion, fly in the corporate jet, drive the corporate Rolls Royce and use the corporate credit card to buy clothes and meals. You pay yourself $500 a week.
    you mean you don't ? …...yea gods man, how do you manage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    you mean you don't ? …...yea gods man, how do you manage.
    I told my wife that money makes people do evil things. So she gives me her paycheck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by converterking View Post
    I told my wife that money makes people do evil things. So she gives me her paycheck.
    LMAO - love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    LMAO - love it.
    My wife came from a family with a lot of money, but both parents were abusive alcoholics. She was 19 and dated me for a short time. She took me out on my birthday, kept buying me double shots and proposed to me at the end of the night. So here I am a couple of months later, married but I would still close the bars every night. My friends would ask "how do you get away with this, my wife would kill me". I told them they would have to meet my inlaws, my wife thinks this is normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by converterking View Post
    So you own a large company. Live in the corporate mansion, fly in the corporate jet, drive the corporate Rolls Royce and use the corporate credit card to buy clothes and meals. You pay yourself $500 a week.
    ..and pay taxes on the beneficial use value of some, if not MOST of those benefits in kind, plus-plus... whatever the Revenue determines you would have been entitled to, whether you TOOK it or not.

    Seriously.

    That's how it works in the tax world. IRS aren't dummies. It is THEIR GAME, all day, every day, since before Sumer had their little water problem [1].

    They've seen it all, and they have rules for it all. Or make new rules as they go.


    [1] One of the oldest set of tax records known were storage rooms full of tiny fired-clay "purses". Inside each? A number of miniature clay effigies of domesticated livestock representing the holdings of each head of household, that year's inventory.

    Next inventory, new count made, old "purse" was cracked open, count compared, tax applied on the change, updated purse sent over to the pottery kiln.

    Then came Noah and the flood, preserving this stuff under mud about four feet deep across Iraq & c. clear to the Persian Gulf.

    You wanna play games with tax critters been at their game since before the Ark was built or writing had been invented? Poor odds of winning. Damned poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post
    ..and pay taxes on the beneficial use value of some, if not MOST of those benefits in kind, plus-plus... whatever the Revenue determines you would have been entitled to, whether you TOOK it or not.

    Seriously.

    That's how it works in the tax world. IRS aren't dummies. It is THEIR GAME, all day, every day, since before Sumer had their little water problem [1].

    They've seen it all, and they have rules for it all.


    [1] One of the oldest set of tax records known were storage rooms full of tiny fired-clay "purses". Inside each? A number of miniature clay effigies of domesticated livestock representing the holdings of each head of household, that year's inventory.

    Next inventory, new count made, old "purse" was cracked open, count compared, tax applied on the change, updated purse sent over to the pottery kiln.

    Then came Noah and the flood, preserving this stuff under mud about four feet deep across Iraq & c. clear to the Persian Gulf.

    You wanna play games with tax critters been at their game since before the Ark was built? Poor odds of winning. Damned poor.
    You are right. I would get the speeding charge reduced to faulty speedometer. An equipment violation. Did it many times when I was younger. In fact I remember a judge telling me you couldn't have a faulty speedometer in the same car 3 times in one year. He said I was guilty as charged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by converterking View Post
    Gordon, you are right. If you had any money, you wouldn't live in Finland.
    List of Finns by net worth - Wikipedia

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    I don't understand how they survive the constant darkness.


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