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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottl View Post
    Assuming you don't have kids and don't have to physically be at work. I know families who can't work from home, have small children at home attending "virtual" school, and they can't visit older family.

    Try dealing with no work, almost no income, and soon the deferred rent or mortgage payments will have to be paid up or face eviction. Add in isolation from friends and family and the situation is far from a "cake walk".

    Just a few days ago heard about a single mother with 3 very young kids, lost her day care when they closed and her job when her "non-essential" employer was ordered closed, and just got a heads up that she likely won't go back to work because her employer can't afford to reopen.
    No kids, its just me. My work/income is from online, that said the last 3 months have been dismally slow, not enough to cover the bills, thankfully I did save for a rainy day, but it sure would be nice to be back at normal. My home is paid for, so eviction won't come till a couple years of not paying taxes, hopefully the economy does not go to total shit over the rona and ___.

    I live alone, just me and the fur babies, have not touched another person since March, I think I know a little bit about isolation. I really do miss Friday nights at the bar, spirited discussions, laughter, and dancing, all seems like a memory today.

    New announcement from local hospital today, we are now at 72 active cases, this time last week we were at 20 something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottl View Post
    Assuming you don't have kids and don't have to physically be at work. I know families who can't work from home, have small children at home attending "virtual" school, and they can't visit older family.

    Try dealing with no work, almost no income, and soon the deferred rent or mortgage payments will have to be paid up or face eviction. Add in isolation from friends and family and the situation is far from a "cake walk".

    Just a few days ago heard about a single mother with 3 very young kids, lost her day care when they closed and her job when her "non-essential" employer was ordered closed, and just got a heads up that she likely won't go back to work because her employer can't afford to reopen.

    Should our rich uncle sam step in or not when things get like this?
    Doing so is sort of socialism which leads to communism.
    Not helping seems sort do not care and pull yourself up by your bootstraps or you are not worthy of living in the USA.
    Big cash inflows up top, a 4 week stop and shutdown and pay to all with at a big ass check to cover it? Now we are talking serious money.
    Or we run as now and be crippled for a while.
    Shutdown not a real option, So many are not going to play along. This may work in other countries, it will not work here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatiangirl61 View Post
    No kids, its just me. My work/income is from online, that said the last 3 months have been dismally slow, not enough to cover the bills, thankfully I did save for a rainy day, but it sure would be nice to be back at normal. My home is paid for, so eviction won't come till a couple years of not paying taxes, hopefully the economy does not go to total shit over the rona and ___.

    I live alone, just me and the fur babies, have not touched another person since March, I think I know a little bit about isolation. I really do miss Friday nights at the bar, spirited discussions, laughter, and dancing, all seems like a memory today.

    New announcement from local hospital today, we are now at 72 active cases, this time last week we were at 20 something.
    This is a tough time. Even though some or even in some cases most places are opening up more still for a segment of the population which is at a much higher risk they are therefore more isolated than others.

    I see places making a good effort to open up and it may likely be fueling cases that we see spiking right now masks considered as most places make the effort to enforce mask rules. The bars are open at somewhat reduced occupancies. It looks like with the cars outside of the bars that they are full bore 100 %.

    I rarely go to bars usually only for a social function. Socially speaking it is important to a extent to buck this trend of caution sometimes by selecting someplace one might enjoy socializing where precautions and safeguards will restrict the dangers of the close proximity of other persons.

    Look and check around and see if you can find a place like that to go to and hang out. It might be the place that you like should be checked on to see what they might be doing that reduces the risk of gatherings. It may mean different times to go or whatever.

    At any rate in my own considerations I still choose to limit my exposure because I can deal with a fair amount of isolation. I do not prefer it and yet considering the virus itself I do not want to meet it even though I believe I will get through it. My health has been that way I can get through things which I must face.

    Some that I know invite trusted friends to their homes and that is like having a family get together. They should never have a loud party that gets attention however and could today even have the neighbors maybe call police if they might feel you are not following rules.

    I see things becoming much more restrictive. It could get very high handed in the future. Like “The road to hell is paved with good intentions”. To step in and produce measures for the promised eradication of the virus I will say those who claimed they would smash it really just want it to whimper away just like their actual courage really is extremely timid and passive.

    Given that feeling it will not last and there can be massive measures which could very likely be described as totalitarian. I hope not yet seeing what has been done before with the spike before back in the summer with less mask participation than we have now and the current spiking belies masks and measures at this point have varied results. It is too wide spread.

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    CBDC will be needed and provided Bob.

    In other news

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbidebob View Post
    should our rich uncle sam step in or not when things get like this?
    doing so is sort of socialism which leads to communism.
    not helping seems sort do not care and pull yourself up by your bootstraps or you are not worthy of living in the usa.
    Big cash inflows up top, a 4 week stop and shutdown and pay to all with at a big ass check to cover it? Now we are talking serious money.
    Bob

    Oh for fucks sake! ....that has got to be one of the most asinine statements I've seen in relation to covid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    Oh for fucks sake! ....that has got to be one of the most asinine statements I've seen in relation to covid
    I was about to respond similarly and then thought to see if anyone beat me to it.

    Bob seems to be of two minds - the smart, analytical mind, and then there's stuff like this (more TT and CalC "thinking").

    Bob, are you just trying to rile us up, or do you really think what Limy was responding to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    Oh for fucks sake! ....that has got to be one of the most asinine statements I've seen in relation to covid
    He said “sort of” anyway. There are avowed Socialists here active in politics with a leg chain on the Democratic Party. No secret.

    I think Bob is keeping the home fires burning and agreeable. Good on him it is a fair observation.

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    Yeah, it's a bit like the old joke: Why don't Mennonites have sex standing up? Because it leads to dancing....

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon73 View Post
    EG sure does know it all. I dont know about you guys but the UK looks to china with longing eyes
    Aw, ain't that sweet.

    Here, not so much longing eyes as open wallets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilho View Post
    Yeah, it's a bit like the old joke: Why don't Mennonites have sex standing up? Because it leads to dancing....



    Aw, ain't that sweet.

    Here, not so much longing eyes as open wallets.
    And the Chinese will think it's Christmas every day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trueturning View Post
    He said “sort of” anyway. .
    I don't mind ignorance, like Will Rogers said, we're all ignorant just of different things. Its stupid that is a piss off. Its a statement that quite simply says I'm ignorant of what socialist means, but stupid enough to make proclamations about it anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trueturning View Post
    This is a tough time. Even though some or even in some cases most places are opening up more still for a segment of the population which is at a much higher risk they are therefore more isolated than others.

    I see places making a good effort to open up and it may likely be fueling cases that we see spiking right now masks considered as most places make the effort to enforce mask rules. The bars are open at somewhat reduced occupancies. It looks like with the cars outside of the bars that they are full bore 100 %.

    I rarely go to bars usually only for a social function. Socially speaking it is important to a extent to buck this trend of caution sometimes by selecting someplace one might enjoy socializing where precautions and safeguards will restrict the dangers of the close proximity of other persons.

    Look and check around and see if you can find a place like that to go to and hang out. It might be the place that you like should be checked on to see what they might be doing that reduces the risk of gatherings. It may mean different times to go or whatever.

    At any rate in my own considerations I still choose to limit my exposure because I can deal with a fair amount of isolation. I do not prefer it and yet considering the virus itself I do not want to meet it even though I believe I will get through it. My health has been that way I can get through things which I must face.

    Some that I know invite trusted friends to their homes and that is like having a family get together. They should never have a loud party that gets attention however and could today even have the neighbors maybe call police if they might feel you are not following rules.

    I see things becoming much more restrictive. It could get very high handed in the future. Like “The road to hell is paved with good intentions”. To step in and produce measures for the promised eradication of the virus I will say those who claimed they would smash it really just want it to whimper away just like their actual courage really is extremely timid and passive.

    Given that feeling it will not last and there can be massive measures which could very likely be described as totalitarian. I hope not yet seeing what has been done before with the spike before back in the summer with less mask participation than we have now and the current spiking belies masks and measures at this point have varied results. It is too wide spread.
    In Tx I rarely went out, there was always something going on at the shop, out here in BFE the locals gather at our small town bar McGill Club - Home | Facebook

    Nothing like the "club scene" you would find in a major city, average age rarely goes lower than 50, and it is an eclectic mix of locals, semi and full retirees, and a steady stream of new faces in the form of archeologists and engineers here for a short job. If the majority of the town was taking this situation serious, I might feel safer going, but they are not. Stopped in last friday eve to grab a few sodas, 3 old guys that still think they are bullet proof at the bar siting side by side giving me a hard time for looking like "darth vador", lol. I chat with neighbors regularly, outdoors and with adequate distance. Got an email invite for Thanksgiving dinner from a neighbor a few days ago, his family has been quite welcoming during the holidays, sadly this year I will decline.

    ScottL
    Yes its a pain in the ass, but to compare it to war or natural disaster is stretching it a bit far imho. I think Americans are pretty damn soft and most have no idea what suffering really feels like, I have had far lower points in my life.

    We have tried no masks, we have tried some people wear masks, maybe, just maybe we should try what China, Taiwan, Japan, and Australia did, everyone wears a f*%&#! mask for a month or 2 and we get this over with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim rozen View Post
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    Here in NY state, mask use is 100 percent in any retail establishment.

    Lady came into the coffee shop we frequent in the mornings - without a mask. She stopped at the door and ran back out, horrified.
    It was almost as if she had forgot to put her pants on that morning.
    Funny I did that at PetSmart, made a u turn just inside the door got the mask out of the car.
    funny how the cats still expect to be feed on time.
    they don't care about silly election or pandemics it's still business as usual in the cat world around here.

    feed me then pet me so I can eat is still the primary cat business

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    The problem is we have an over abundance of stupid people.

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    Here's a comment from Michigan's Governor, and referencing their Chief Medical Officer:

    "Covid-19 hospitalizations have increased fivefold in as many weeks, and are expected to double within the next two weeks, she said. The state's chief medical officer, Dr. Joneigh Khaldun, said the positivity rate was at 10.8%.

    "The curve that we had flattened? Right now that curve is a straight line, and it is straight up," Whitmer said. "Our hospitals are nearing capacity, and they are burning through PPE."

    This last bit - "burning through PPE" should be a major concern, and it brings us back to the question of where does the US stand on ability to make our own? We've had more than ten months of awareness of how critical PPE is, and there should have been a "Manhattan Project-level" push to tool up production.

    But then, we also had an administration that pooh-poohed the disease, and didn't use its emergency powers for such things.

    So, more nurses and doctors will die? And those who won't wear a mask will continue to spread the virus and help increase fatalities?

    Nurse sends loving message to his family hours before losing his life to Covid-19 - CNN

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarbideBob View Post
    Shutdown not a real option, So many are not going to play along. This may work in other countries, it will not work here.
    It's not a case of can't, it's a case of won't. You're a bunch of spoiled little crybabies, so you get what you deserve. It takes three goddamn weeks but waaaaa waaaaa waaaa I wanna go have a drink it's all a fraud no one has really died waaa waaa waaa I want my freedumb !

    Fine, have your freedumb. Mom Nature is gonna kick your ignerant ass, buddy.

    Anyway, the good news is, Trump is out of the picture and new research is showing other potential control methods. The Atlantic article was quite interesting, and opens up different avenues for dealing with this virus.

    If you people can get out of your spoiled first-grader mindset and use your brains for a change, anyhow.

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    https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisiona...nd-W/vsak-wrfu

    1 Wuhan Flu death this past week. Really? only one in the 65 year old category?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalG View Post
    . . . Really? only one in the 65 year old category?
    No, not really. The data lags at least a day. Over 1000 Covid deaths in all age groups the day before. Likely about the same today - to begin reporting tomorrow.

    You surely knew this . . . . ?

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    Sleepy Joe has spoken to Scottie Morrison about the virus.......he s wasting his time....its the state premiers who have done the hard yards suppressing the virus,they are the ones taking all the flak over lockdowns and border closures,and getting death threats from the kind of self obsessed individuals evident on this forum.....and Morrison is starting to sense some political advantage to be gained from cultivating these wackos.....I thought he was better than that,but hes just another evil politician,as it turns out..

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilho View Post
    Aw, ain't that sweet.
    Here, not so much longing eyes as open wallets.
    Earlier in the year we had plenty of points to China for how well theyve done throughout this crisis, all from reputable outlets so its safe to say the info is good.
    Coronavirus: How China'''s using surveillance to tackle outbreak - BBC News
    Coronavirus: China'''s tech fights back - BBC News
    Now we have QRcodes in the shop window and tracing apps etc, with the promise of more electronic safety measures to come, the 5G roll out in the first lockdown will surely help this effort to keep us all safe.
    I went out for an exercising walk yesterday through Surbiton, allowed under UK rules so no worries there and I stayed safe. As you might imagine all non essential business is closed, very few folks out with about 70% wearing masks outside but a heartwarming 100% in enclosed areas such as shops. Although some experts suggest 3 weeks to beat the virus I think the extra effort of 4 weeks can only be safer, and if not, we can just lockdown some more

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