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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldwrench View Post
    Milland, I am only peripherally aware of the Q-anon schtick, and am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of any organization that might even remotely be considered subversive or in the least inimical to the public interest. I belonged to the Cub Scouts in 1956-57 and the Army in 1967-69. No affiliation with any political party, ever. My life has been mainly concerned with building a manufacturing business—albeit one in a very narrow market niche against only about three credible competitors worldwide—and therefore my political preferences have been learned, not inculcated (by media, or, for that matter, by formerly neutral publications which some time ago crossed the line into advocacy, e.g. Scientific American). I'm going on 73 and still working full time, and I care about the economic future because this enterprise supports a number of families who would be in jeopardy from a national descent into socialism. Hence, I am viscerally opposed to the prospect of a Kamala Harris presidency, as well as to the continuing leftist influence in Congress of the "Squad.". I've earned the right to that opinion, it's intellectually mainstream, and calling me a conspiracy theorist is the same old ad hominem response traditionally resorted to by the left.
    'no affiliation with any political party'

    yet you call Harris a socialist, using right wing talking points, so you are no neutral party

    Harris is no more a socialist than you are, proving the only reason you are not affiliated with a political party is that the trumpistas are too liberal for you

    If you do not want personal attacks, have a point, because all you stand for right now is support for incompetence

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    'no affiliation with any political party' yet you call Harris a socialist, using right wing talking points, so you are no neutral party Harris is no more a socialist than you are, proving the only reason you are not affiliated with a political party is that the trumpistas are too liberal for you If you do not want personal attacks, have a point, because all you stand for right now is support for incompetence
    1. I am unaffiliated, which means I belong to no political party. That's an actual voter classification.

    2. I don't know any talking points, but I understand English (which is perhaps why I employ punctuation) and the description of Harris as a Socialist is more accurate than calling her a Liberal. JFK was a liberal whereas she is decidedly not (I generally avoid the term Progressive, as that's loaded to disguise its original use, which was to cloak Marxists and Communists when those affiliations were still illegal).

    3. "If (I) do not want personal attacks?" Well, ladies and germs, there you have it. Seems in order to avoid personal attacks I must keep my political opinions to myself. Or "have a point," which to Milland apparently means the same thing (he has rhetorically entrapped himself, but WTF, you can't argue the leftist line of shit without it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcsipo View Post
    if the glove does not fit.

    dee
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    That one boggled the mind, anyone that has ever worn leather gloves knows that moisture will make them shrink. The prosecution team has to be one of the most inept in modern history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalG View Post
    Positive tests are easy, they are making them up all the time.
    Not so much making them up as using a flawed test and lying about its accuracy.

    As of today, September 17, 2020 neither I nor anyone I've spoken to (including by phone with people in other parts of the country) knows anyone who actually got sick with it although we all know people who "got infected" ie tested positive. Know 2 older people who "died of coronavirus" yet according to family members died of terminal preexisting conditions. As I said before, it's a numbers game and the game is rigged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualkit View Post
    That one boggled the mind, anyone that has ever worn leather gloves knows that moisture will make them shrink. The prosecution team has to be one of the most inept in modern history.
    Wasn't the main reason the jury acquitted him. They didn't believe the prosecution's timeline was plausible, and along with other facts such as a detective visiting a crime scene with a sample of the suspect's blood in his pocket they didn't feel guilt was proved beyond a reasonable doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldwrench View Post
    1. I am unaffiliated, which means I belong to no political party. That's an actual voter classification.

    2. I don't know any talking points, but I understand English (which is perhaps why I employ punctuation) and the description of Harris as a Socialist is more accurate than calling her a Liberal. JFK was a liberal whereas she is decidedly not (I generally avoid the term Progressive, as that's loaded to disguise its original use, which was to cloak Marxists and Communists when those affiliations were still illegal).

    3. "If (I) do not want personal attacks?" Well, ladies and germs, there you have it. Seems in order to avoid personal attacks I must keep my political opinions to myself. Or "have a point," which to Milland apparently means the same thing (he has rhetorically entrapped himself, but WTF, you can't argue the leftist line of shit without it).
    If JFK ran today as a democrat in the primary I bet he wouldn't get out of single digits.


    "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country."

    That line definitely would not go over well with democrats these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldwrench View Post
    Milland, I am only peripherally aware of the Q-anon schtick, and am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of any organization that might even remotely be considered subversive or in the least inimical to the public interest. I belonged to the Cub Scouts in 1956-57 and the Army in 1967-69. No affiliation with any political party, ever. My life has been mainly concerned with building a manufacturing business—albeit one in a very narrow market niche against only about three credible competitors worldwide—and therefore my political preferences have been learned, not inculcated (by media, or, for that matter, by formerly neutral publications which some time ago crossed the line into advocacy, e.g. Scientific American). I'm going on 73 and still working full time, and I care about the economic future because this enterprise supports a number of families who would be in jeopardy from a national descent into socialism. Hence, I am viscerally opposed to the prospect of a Kamala Harris presidency, as well as to the continuing leftist influence in Congress of the "Squad." I've earned the right to that opinion; it's intellectually mainstream. Calling me a conspiracy theorist is the same old ad hominem response traditionally resorted to by the left.
    national descent into socialism
    i am from the netherlands, what in the usa would amount to a socialist country, as would our neighbours belgium and germany.
    i truly wonder what you are afraid would happen if the usa had our system of healthcare, unemployment benefits, payed holidays and payed sick leave.
    all of those things are very socialist and are the norm all over western europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottl View Post
    Wasn't the main reason the jury acquitted him. They didn't believe the prosecution's timeline was plausible, and along with other facts such as a detective visiting a crime scene with a sample of the suspect's blood in his pocket they didn't feel guilt was proved beyond a reasonable doubt.
    Cochran playing the race card is what got him acquitted, plus a jury of people who weren't very bright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualkit View Post
    If JFK ran today as a democrat in the primary I bet he wouldn't get out of single digits.


    "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country."

    That line definitely would not go over well with democrats these days.
    What. compared to the party of selfish that is what is left of the Republican party?
    be serious

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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanruth View Post
    national descent into socialism
    i am from the netherlands, what in the usa would amount to a socialist country, as would our neighbours belgium and germany.
    i truly wonder what you are afraid would happen if the usa had our system of healthcare, unemployment benefits, payed holidays and payed sick leave.
    all of those things are very socialist and are the norm all over western europe.
    We learned our lesson after WW2, we won't save your bacon again.
    Ungrateful peons, wanted us to "take all the Americans home" and dig up the graves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottl View Post
    Not so much making them up as using a flawed test and lying about its accuracy.

    As of today, September 17, 2020 neither I nor anyone I've spoken to (including by phone with people in other parts of the country) knows anyone who actually got sick with it although we all know people who "got infected" ie tested positive. Know 2 older people who "died of coronavirus" yet according to family members died of terminal preexisting conditions. As I said before, it's a numbers game and the game is rigged.

    Yet another fact free post

    You have no respect for truth especially if it conflicts with your political outlook

    pathetic 200,000 dead and you pretend it never happened

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldwrench View Post
    1. I am unaffiliated, which means I belong to no political party. That's an actual voter classification.

    2. I don't know any talking points, but I understand English (which is perhaps why I employ punctuation) and the description of Harris as a Socialist is more accurate than calling her a Liberal. JFK was a liberal whereas she is decidedly not (I generally avoid the term Progressive, as that's loaded to disguise its original use, which was to cloak Marxists and Communists when those affiliations were still illegal).

    3. "If (I) do not want personal attacks?" Well, ladies and germs, there you have it. Seems in order to avoid personal attacks I must keep my political opinions to myself. Or "have a point," which to Milland apparently means the same thing (he has rhetorically entrapped himself, but WTF, you can't argue the leftist line of shit without it).
    You know the talking points because it is all you know, that you don't know they are talking points says a ton about your sources

    JFK was no liberal, which again, goes to your rioht of Attila the Hun outlook

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldwrench View Post
    1. I am unaffiliated, which means I belong to no political party. That's an actual voter classification.

    2. I don't know any talking points, but I understand English (which is perhaps why I employ punctuation) and the description of Harris as a Socialist is more accurate than calling her a Liberal. JFK was a liberal whereas she is decidedly not (I generally avoid the term Progressive, as that's loaded to disguise its original use, which was to cloak Marxists and Communists when those affiliations were still illegal).

    3. "If (I) do not want personal attacks?" Well, ladies and germs, there you have it. Seems in order to avoid personal attacks I must keep my political opinions to myself. Or "have a point," which to Milland apparently means the same thing (he has rhetorically entrapped himself, but WTF, you can't argue the leftist line of shit without it).
    1. I am registered as an Independent, which is the same thing in my state.

    2. Based on her Senate votes, Harris has been rated the most far-left Senator by several groups, which means her voting record is to the left of Bernie Sanders. FAR from a moderate indeed.

    3. And there it is, boldly stated in post # 7481 by "gustafson" and practiced by several of his tribe in multiple recent posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    If you do not want personal attacks, have a point, because all you stand for right now is support for incompetence
    They make personal attacks because that is all they have. Their illogical positions are based solely on emotion and could never stand up in a REAL debate. We see this time after time when their kind debate the opposition on TV "news" programs. The conservative will (usually) remain politely silent while the leftist speaks and then when his turn comes the leftist loudly tries to talk over him, usually with insults and derision. If he is unsuccessful the host will chime in, also trying to shout him down. I've seen it practiced since at least the 70s and the pattern never varies much. What has them in a real panic now is that with Trump they are facing someone who not only won't back down but gives them back some of their own.

    PS: Even the Washington Post admits JFK was a Liberal. It's just that the modern Democrats have moved so far left that he SEEMS conservative compared to their current views and policies.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...254_story.html

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    I have been trying to catch up to this thread for months now. You guys are on a roll. I've noticed that a certain group seems to scoff at the idea that the media skews stories and people on the right have no business questioning what they are fed, so I wanted to share an article from a producer at MSNBC that just recently quit and called the media as a whole a cancer to our society that pushes profits instead of journalism. Her letter nails it IMO. I can't find just the transcript of her resignation, but here is an article that we know will have some bias.

    MSNBC reporter quits, says network a money-making 'cancer' | Daily Mail Online

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    Real debate?

    you don't even know what it means, why is it you rely on bizarre and untrue labels like socialist?

    Because it is you who have no [point?

    why is it you rely on conspiracy theories and outright lies?


    Because it is you who cannot make a fact based argument

    200k dead in this country alone, every country on the planet has high death tolls and you make arguments that it does not exist

    why?

    because there is no logical argument against your internal fantasy

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    A letter to the editor to WaPo is not the WaPo

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    Yet another fact free post

    You have no respect for truth especially if it conflicts with your political outlook

    pathetic 200,000 dead and you pretend it never happened
    Are you counting all the deaths due to traffic accidents, heart disease, pneumonia, etc. that were counted as COVID...???

    And they're all Trump's fault even though he was told in March that he can't shut down individual states (hotspots).


    2020-09-17-12_31_25.jpg

    What's that saying about arguing with a fool online....

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    Glad to see the TDS is still raging.
    10bucks says my mate Juan is correct...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChipSplitter View Post
    Are you counting all the deaths due to traffic accidents, heart disease, pneumonia, etc. that were counted as COVID...???

    And they're all Trump's fault even though he was told in March that he can't shut down individual states (hotspots).


    2020-09-17-12_31_25.jpg

    What's that saying about arguing with a fool online....
    I am counting the deaths that reputable orgainzations count and you are making things up

    that is the difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milland View Post
    [Pedant mode] I've got that as 439B (21K x 19.1M), not T, Pete. Don't want to give the Trumpheads a little ledge to stand on... [/Pedant mode]

    I was wondering who was actually going to do the math.


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