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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlight machine View Post
    Funny thing, If you or I got a job in mexico they would thrown you in the slammer, but they can flood the U S with cheap labor and in doing so drive our wages down and we are expected to welcome them. Don't think wages are down? A dry wall guy used to make 22.00 Mexican dry wall guys dry wall guys work for 12.00
    and they do a shitty job.... but that 12 untaxed works out to be quite a bit if you put taxes, ss, med, etc on top

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlight machine View Post
    Funny thing, If you or I got a job in mexico they would thrown you in the slammer, but they can flood the U S with cheap labor and in doing so drive our wages down and we are expected to welcome them. Don't think wages are down? A dry wall guy used to make 22.00 Mexican dry wall guys dry wall guys work for 12.00
    Of course.
    The reason this happens is because the business owners don't go to jail.

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    If we have Sanctuary Cities who protect illegal immigrant felons, what's the likelihood of imprisoning the employers of those aliens?

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    Will report back when sane president takes office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlight machine View Post
    Funny thing, If you or I got a job in mexico they would thrown you in the slammer, but they can flood the U S with cheap labor and in doing so drive our wages down and we are expected to welcome them. Don't think wages are down? A dry wall guy used to make 22.00 Mexican dry wall guys dry wall guys work for 12.00
    Canada much the same. having a drinking charge on your record and likely you can't visit Canada.
    One of our fishing guys got a drinking charge is now not able to come to fish camp...Perhaps paying a big fine he might be ble to come.
    Do Americans Need a Visa in Canada? | USA Today

    Entering Canada with a Criminal Record

    We help china to USA shipping through the United Nations agreement..Go figure USA tax money given to help to give away our jobs...Ar we that stupid?...yes.
    The United Nations is helping subsidize Chinese shipping. Here'''s how. | Fortune.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by michiganbuck View Post
    Canada much the same. having a drinking charge on your record and likely you can't visit Canada.
    One of our fishing guys got a drinking charge is now not able to come to fish camp...Perhaps paying a big fine he might be ble to come.
    Do Americans Need a Visa in Canada? | USA Today

    Entering Canada with a Criminal Record
    Not so much, ilegales with anything up to a rape or murder charge just walk free. Drunk drive illegal, driving drunk again kills a man, over and over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mud View Post
    If we have Sanctuary Cities who protect illegal immigrant felons, what's the likelihood of imprisoning the employers of those aliens?
    Lets require all localities to enforce federal law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlight machine View Post
    Not so much, ilegales with anything up to a rape or murder charge just walk free. Drunk drive illegal, driving drunk again kills a man, over and over again.
    False...
    All it takes is a warrant.
    But hey, let's have every Podunk town enforcing federal execute orders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Farmer View Post

    Business cycles move in ways that no one can control, despite huge efforts by every government in the world to do so since the beginning of recorded history -- remember the story of the Pharoah's dreams in Genesis 41 (good harvests followed by bad harvests, the

    It's just a sign of political and economic naivete to credit presidents for good economic conditions, or blame them for poor ones. Especially two months into their term, before they've done anything to the tax code or even submitted the first budget. Stock market bubbles really don't count.

    Spoilsport

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguels244 View Post
    False...
    All it takes is a warrant.
    But hey, let's have every Podunk town enforcing federal execute orders.
    Yeah in your world that POS that killed Kate Steinle with the stolen gun after being deported 5 times didn't really happen. Have another toke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlight machine View Post
    Yeah in your world that POS that killed Kate Steinle with the stolen gun after being deported 5 times didn't really happen. Have another toke.
    All it took was a federal warrant.
    Like any other suspected criminal.
    DHS couldn't be bothered.
    But hey...lets make localities enforce federal law...how does that sound.

    How about if all counties track mental health and report it to the ATF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlight machine View Post
    Not so much, ilegales with anything up to a rape or murder charge just walk free. Drunk drive illegal, driving drunk again kills a man, over and over again.
    Do you seriously believe what you write or .................? Any examples of anyone "walking free"?

    I know it isn't funny but how do you "kill a man, over and over again"? Once is usually enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorsports-X View Post
    hows things going for you guys?
    I'm ok, after being laid off by a Generally Electrical Co. Inc. on December 31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post
    Do you seriously believe what you write or .................? Any examples of anyone "walking free"?

    I know it isn't funny but how do you "kill a man, over and over again"? Once is usually enough.
    To some, hyperbole is just as good as fact.

    You've been here long enough to know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguels244 View Post
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    But hey...lets make localities enforce federal law...how does that sound.
    You've said this more than once. I don't know if you're serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rons View Post
    [X] Check if uneducated quote.

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    Somehow that doesn't look like a Mexico-built wall. How 'bout this time you Snopes-check yourself?

    Also helps if the folks making up crap can spell both the country names they're referencing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post
    Do you seriously believe what you write or .................? Any examples of anyone "walking free"?

    I know it isn't funny but how do you "kill a man, over and over again"? Once is usually enough.
    What a dumbass, the same man does not die over and over. It's one incident after another. And yes if you are an alien and commit a crime chances are good you will do no time. It is improving a bit since Trump. Crossings at the Mexico border are down by 50% they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlight machine View Post
    What a dumbass, the same man does not die over and over. It's one incident after another. And yes if you are an alien and commit a crime chances are good you will do no time. It is improving a bit since Trump. Crossings at the Mexico border are down by 50% they say.
    "What a dumbass" says the man with no humour

    I for one would like to know what it is you think Trump has done that criminal aliens are now doing time that they didn't do before?

    "They say"??????? I guess Trump and his "crew" are known for telling the truth. Of course it could be the "crossings" are from north to south and not south to north

    I am pretty sure you are getting your news from the same source as Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by rons View Post
    [X] Check if uneducated quote.

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    Is this the wall you mean? LMAO

    Mexico-Guatemala Border Wall

    Since Trump likes "great" why not let the Chinese build a new Great Wall. They've done it before so they know how to do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlight machine View Post
    ............................................. they can flood the U S with cheap labor and in doing so drive our wages down and we are expected to welcome them. ..............................
    Moon'

    I don't know anything about where you live in Ohio.... but I know west coast fruit and vegetable growers depend heavily on legal and illegal migrant workers to pick their crops.

    We have lots and lots of homeless people in Seattle supposedly willing to work IF there were jobs. Problem is, there are jobs. In the harvest season growers in eastern Washington are begging for workers. It seems migrants are the only ones willing to do the work.

    My son is a contractor, through him I've come to know a few of his Hispanic workers. It's interesting to hear they consider this country the land of opportunity.


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