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    WTI just broke a significant trend line to the topside.
    There is murmuring about the beginning of a new commodities super cycle.

    They should have asked me about three years ago.
    No respect..

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    Yes, in that sit-you-ation....However, business class operations might
    be a wee bit different.
    "Business Class?"

    You've NO idea. Whom d'you think it is as has been taking the helicopters off the wharf or rooftops and such, renting aircraft, or flying our own aircraft for ages?

    Veteran officers ran rather a lot of civilian boardrooms. Not Admirals and Generals. Lootenants as hadn't had time to get fat and lazy mostly.

    Risk taking was never alien to any of us. That's WHY we ran so many things.

    After Lockerbie I was on Pan Am, same short-upper 747-100, similar or same flight route as had been blown apart. My regular "working redeye" night hours runs RT IAD/LHR.

    Not a lot of folks still flying Pan Am, so even on no-notice, I got first row, top deck left, lots of open space, good lighting to work and the same Senior Flight attendent as took care of the bus drivers bringing the meals.

    BFD.

    Figured Pan Am wouldn't be careless TWICE.

    Most other days and ways, they were far and away the better airline, regardless.
    "Can't beat the experience", indeed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatiangirl61 View Post
    I'm pretty sure someone could write a book on the concept planes in the past 50 years, few have come to fruition, and I'm still waiting on my jet pack
    There's a song for that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    There's a song for that....
    Searching "jet pack lyrics" on YT it looks like there are several, I'm guessing this is the one you were referring to, as the others suck. Jetpack - YouTube

    Weather felt nice enough yesterday morning that I drug out the paraglider wing, 5 minutes outside and my hands were frozen, guess I need to wait a few more weeks
    Fly Like An Eagle- The Steve Miller Band w/ lyrics - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatiangirl61 View Post
    Searching "jet pack lyrics" on YT it looks like there are several, I'm guessing this is the one you were referring to, as the others suck. Jetpack - YouTube

    Weather felt nice enough yesterday morning that I drug out the paraglider wing, 5 minutes outside and my hands were frozen, guess I need to wait a few more weeks
    Fly Like An Eagle- The Steve Miller Band w/ lyrics - YouTube
    Yup, that's the one.

    fly like an eagle.....better version :
    Parody Song "Fry Up An Eagle" .Freaky ... but FUNNY.By Tim Cavanagh on The Bob & Tom Show. - YouTube


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    Quote Originally Posted by mhajicek View Post
    I think the intention is to eliminate using pilots at all as soon as possible.
    I watched a documentary of airplane safety from 1995. The number one cause of accidents was human pilot error. By accidents I mean all types, commuter, transport, etc.
    A little more than one accident a week.

    The worst safety records are in Africa.

    Then Asia and Russia.

    The best safety records are in Western Europe, North America, and the Middle East (if you don't account for terrorist hijackings).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rons View Post
    I watched a documentary of airplane safety from 1995. The number one cause of accidents was human pilot error. By accidents I mean all types, commuter, transport, etc.
    A little more than one accident a week.

    The worst safety records are in Africa.

    Then Asia and Russia.

    The best safety records are in Western Europe, North America, and the Middle East (if you don't account for terrorist hijackings).
    However, there are no numbers where human intervention saved the plane/passengers.

    What would Robby the robot doo when the engine blew up ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    However, there are no numbers where human intervention saved the plane/passengers.

    What would Robby the robot doo when the engine blew up ?
    Climb out on the wing with a fire extinguisher and put out the flames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawnrs View Post
    Climb out on the wing with a fire extinguisher and put out the flames.
    there is a story....sorry i can't find it anymore, maybe airbum.com
    anyways there was an airline pilot that flew aerobatics as a hobby.
    On his "day job" flying some heavy airliner, he encountered severe wake turbulence
    very close to the ground (It think it was on take off)
    So the plane is banking hard to one side, and opposite aileron was not enough
    to bring the plane back, very bad condition.

    The pilot, recognizing his predicament, said "this is like entering a barrel roll"
    and thus took the plane all the way 'round. The only thing he could do at that point.

    What would the autopilot doo ? it would have run out of aileron, and the plane would have crashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman109 View Post
    Well sure. That assumes that the fire would not continue and ultimately burn a hole into the wing tank.
    Watching the video it looks like the engine is way out on a nacelle, some distance from the wing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    there is a story....sorry i can't find it anymore, maybe airbum.com
    anyways there was an airline pilot that flew aerobatics as a hobby.
    On his "day job" flying some heavy airliner, he encountered severe wake turbulence
    very close to the ground (It think it was on take off)
    So the plane is banking hard to one side, and opposite aileron was not enough
    to bring the plane back, very bad condition.

    The pilot, recognizing his predicament, said "this is like entering a barrel roll"
    and thus took the plane all the way 'round. The only thing he could do at that point.

    What would the autopilot doo ? it would have run out of aileron, and the plane would have crashed.
    Good thing the autopilot was not on that Boeing jet that lost part of it engine covers in mid air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhajicek View Post
    Watching the video it looks like the engine is way out on a nacelle, some distance from the wing.

    Sure, but there have been crashes where aircraft caught fire in a wing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman109 View Post
    Sure, but there have been crashes where aircraft caught fire in a wing....
    You mean like in Iowa ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    You mean like in Iowa ?

    That's one. (see link) There are others that I can't find now where aircraft caught fire in the wing. I did see one a while back on the Smithsonian Air Disasters Show where a mechanic inadvertently left a spacer washer off of a bolt that held a wing "spoiler" bracket in place. (not sure of the term. It's like a flap on the front of the wing to increase lift) When the spoiler deployed, the bolt was driven into the fuel tank and punctured it. The airplane caught fire. I don't recall the injuries, but the plane was able to land before it burned.


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    If your interested in about as good an explanation of the events on the 777 that suffered an engine failure go to the link:

    UAL 328 UPDATE Fan Blade Failure B777-200 22 Feb 2021 - YouTube

    The gentleman who is commenting is very qualified as he is currently a 777 pilot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhajicek View Post
    Watching the video it looks like the engine is way out on a nacelle, some distance from the wing.
    When a turbine wheel explodes guess where the parts go, the wing catches 180 degrees of the debris, been a few incidents where a passenger catches a piece too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    However, there are no numbers where human intervention saved the plane/passengers.

    What would Robby the robot doo when the engine blew up ?
    “ What would Robby the robot doo when the engine blew up ?”

    Easy one he would call Donnie the drone and have him shoot the rest of them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman109 View Post
    That's one. (see link) There are others that I can't find now where aircraft caught fire in the wing. I did see one a while back on the Smithsonian Air Disasters Show where a mechanic inadvertently left a spacer washer off of a bolt that held a wing "spoiler" bracket in place. (not sure of the term. It's like a flap on the front of the wing to increase lift) When the spoiler deployed, the bolt was driven into the fuel tank and punctured it. The airplane caught fire. I don't recall the injuries, but the plane was able to land before it burned.


    United Airlines Flight 232 - Wikipedia
    Another:

    Air Canada Flight 621 - Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    there is a story....sorry i can't find it anymore, maybe airbum.com
    anyways there was an airline pilot that flew aerobatics as a hobby.
    On his "day job" flying some heavy airliner, he encountered severe wake turbulence
    very close to the ground (It think it was on take off)
    So the plane is banking hard to one side, and opposite aileron was not enough
    to bring the plane back, very bad condition.

    The pilot, recognizing his predicament, said "this is like entering a barrel roll"
    and thus took the plane all the way 'round. The only thing he could do at that point.
    I bet that woke the passengers right up !

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatiangirl61 View Post
    Quick google search shows me that the Archer Aviation "air taxi" is currently just a "concept", they have not built one yet, and in all the PR fluff its either a 2 or 4 seater, and I don't see any pilot controls. For now I'm calling it another "pie in the sky".
    Or a "hole in the air to which you shovel Other Peoples Money". For YEARS!

    See Packard and Junkers aero diesels that flew and even set records. For radial and inline recips.

    Or the sales-pitch for Zwick Aero Diesel that only sounds like a BROKEN record.

    That the designation "JP" even exists is far the more important message as to turbines!



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