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Any thoughts on what it will do to American trade overseas, and jobs here? This is not a climate, but a foreign policy and trade issue.
dee
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dee
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Short term...nothing.Any thoughts on what it will do to American trade overseas, and jobs here? This is not a climate, but a foreign policy and trade issue.
dee
;-D
Does the Accord work or does it just move the jobs to China where they make more smoke.
I remember the the smoke stacks in Detroit..My buddy Bob remembers the River Thames black like coffee with no fish.
I know it makes people feel good to throw money at a problem..
Yes I am for clean air and less pollution..
China Says It's Going to Use More Coal, With Capacity Set to Grow 19% - Bloomberg
Who will lead the global climate landscape?
China, India, the European Union, Canada and others have strong incentives to embrace cleaner technologies, with or without the U.S. Yes there’s the health of the planet, but there’s also economic self-interest to take into account. According to a U.S. Department of Energy report, clean energy costs are tumbling. The cost of land-based wind power, utility and distributed photovoltaic (PV) solar power, light emitting diodes (LEDs), and electric vehicles (EVs) has fallen by 41% to as high as 94% since 2008.
China’s huge new investment into clean energy is further proof that it has no plans to change course on climate. In fact, the Chinese leadership is emboldened by the news coming out of America. Senior Chinese climate change official, Zou Ji, underscored that if Trump abdicates U.S. leadership on the Paris Agreement, “China’s influence and voice are likely to increase […] which will then spill over into other areas of global governance and increase China’s global standing, power and leadership.”
The new administration’s actions could lead China and the EU to respond with climate-focused trade measures, such as imposing a carbon price on imports of high-carbon products, i.e., a carbon tariff border adjustment, from the U.S. and others. Former French President, Nicolas Sarkozy suggested a European carbon tax on American-made goods if President-elect Donald Trump pulls out of the climate accord.
What's the difference, everyone that signs the agreement cheats on it except us. So we get screwed again. Gordon must be sleeping or he would have already been posting about how stupid we are.
I remember Gary Indiana when they ran SS and the smoke was so thick like red fog..
Because of the inequality in the manner of who would have to control "carbon" and who would not, the practical effects of the agreement would amount to income redistribution from western countries to "developing" ones.
The amount of "green" energy being adopted by China is meaningless. They have made it abundantly clear that for the foreseeable future coal will be the dominant part of their energy policy.
If this was really about saving the planet there would be NO exemptions and jet travel would be taxed to the point of costing several times what it does now.
Also...you are wrong.Because of the inequality in the manner of who would have to control "carbon" and who would not, the practical effects of the agreement would amount to income redistribution from western countries to "developing" ones.
The amount of "green" energy being adopted by China is meaningless. They have made it abundantly clear that for the foreseeable future coal will be the dominant part of their energy policy.
If this was really about saving the planet there would be NO exemptions and jet travel would be taxed to the point of costing several times what it does now.
Wall to wall wind mills would not provide the needed heat.. so that problem exists no matter how much money we throw at wind....Not saying wind is a bad thing but we need to face the facts..
Read the agreements financial section. Its budget call for 200 billion USDs by the year 2020. Who do you think is going to pay most of that bill? Look how the NATO nations pay!!!!!
Norquist: Tax Reform Could Bring 4% Growth Rate | Americans for Tax Reform
What's the difference, everyone that signs the agreement cheats on it except us. So we get screwed again. Gordon must be sleeping or he would have already been posting about how stupid we are.
Read the agreements financial section. Its budget call for 200 billion USDs by the year 2020. Who do you think is going to pay most of that bill? Look how the NATO nations pay!!!!!
Norquist: Tax Reform Could Bring 4% Growth Rate | Americans for Tax Reform
Exxon CEO Darren Woods wrote a personal letter to Trump earlier this month, urging him to stick to the deal. The U.S., he said, is "well positioned to compete" with the agreement in place and staying in means "a seat at the negotiating table to ensure a level playing field."
Business leaders say the Paris deal, also called COP21, will help generate new jobs, limit damage from climate change and help assert American leadership on the global stage.
"By expanding markets for innovative clean technologies, the agreement generates jobs and economic growth," business leaders wrote in a recent ad published in major newspapers. "U.S. companies are well positioned to lead in these markets. Withdrawing from the agreement will limit our access to them and could expose us to retaliatory measures."
54. Also decides that, in accordance with Article 9, paragraph 3, of the Agreement,
developed countries intend to continue their existing collective mobilization goal through
2025 in the context of meaningful mitigation actions and transparency on implementation;
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prior to 2025 the Conference of the Parties serving as the meeting of the Parties to the Paris
Agreement shall set a new collective quantified goal from a floor of USD 100 billion per
year, taking into account the needs and priorities of developing countries;
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