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    Zero is WAY more complex than that - The Origin of Zero - Scientific American

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mud View Post
    Zero is WAY more complex than that - The Origin of Zero - Scientific American
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zxYsgRsNg2s

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    Quote Originally Posted by juergenwt View Post
    Scotti - Can you tell us - where exactly would those million dollar costs for changing small businesses to metric occur? Thanks.
    Still no answer from the people who know it would cost millions to change a small business to metric. Some profanity from the some people out to make a public statement on their level of intelligence.
    Yes, a few old micrometers that can not be switched are still around. Fine if you want to keep them, Use 25.4. Some old machines - and there were a lot of real good ones (liked my old Hendey lathe)- keep them. Just use 25.4. Gauge blocks - if you don't want to buy a metric set, use 25.4. Reamers - you may have to buy a metric set as you need them. Would not cost millions! Just sit down and actually add up the amount of money you would have to spend going metric, and than look at the savings you would receive in return.
    Little by little you will invest in modern, more efficient machines and realize a big savings. More and more companies are producing all new product in metric only as most of us have noticed.
    http://www.us-metric.org/wp-content/...ing_Metric.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by juergenwt View Post
    Still no answer from the people who know it would cost millions to change a small business to metric. Some profanity from the some people out to make a public statement on their level of intelligence.
    Yes, a few old micrometers that can not be switched are still around. Fine if you want to keep them, Use 25.4. Some old machines - and there were a lot of real good ones (liked my old Hendey lathe)- keep them. Just use 25.4. Gauge blocks - if you don't want to buy a metric set, use 25.4. Reamers - you may have to buy a metric set as you need them. Would not cost millions! Just sit down and actually add up the amount of money you would have to spend going metric, and than look at the savings you would receive in return.
    Little by little you will invest in modern, more efficient machines and realize a big savings. More and more companies are producing all new product in metric only as most of us have noticed.
    http://www.us-metric.org/wp-content/...ing_Metric.pdf
    The article you linked to is a big pile of B.S.

    The cost savings that GM realized had zero to do with going metric and everything to do with simplifying their designs. The number of fan belt sizes has nothing to do with being specified in metric units or metric wire sizes and copper consumption.

    The fact is GM did some smart engineering optimization and realized a large cost savings. They could have done this in Imperial or Metric units and would have seen exactly the same savings.

    It is exactly these types of articles that are used as references for how the US would save millions if we only went metric that damages any points you might make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy2 View Post
    The article you linked to is a big pile of B.S.

    The cost savings that GM realized had zero to do with going metric and everything to do with simplifying their designs. The number of fan belt sizes has nothing to do with being specified in metric units or metric wire sizes and copper consumption.

    The fact is GM did some smart engineering optimization and realized a large cost savings. They could have done this in Imperial or Metric units and would have seen exactly the same savings.

    It is exactly these types of articles that are used as references for how the US would save millions if we only went metric that damages any points you might make.
    It takes zero thought to realize that having both systems is stupid and wasteful.

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    Ziggy got there before I did. I was reading the article. Almost everyone of the "points" for going metric, had nothing to do with going metric, and were byproducts of looking at old processes and rationalizing them. You don't need to go metric to do that. The most valid point I saw, was that in a global corporation, it is difficult to effectively coordinate with others working in a different system. If you are bilingual metric/imperial, maybe it isn't so much of a point. I have yet to see any good analyses on cost/benefits. Doesn't mean there couldn't be any out there.

    p.s. Calling other points of view "stupid" is not much of an argument, especially since most comments aren't saying we shouldn't go metric, they are just doubtful it should be done by royal command.

    Jon P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguels244 View Post
    It takes zero thought to realize that having both systems is stupid and wasteful.
    Well "zero thought" positions IS your demonstrated area of expertise, the reason you believe you have a "cause"... and probably why you have a paycheck.

    If the US DID go exclusively metric, what then for YOU?

    Sleeping under a highway overpass, maybe?

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    Will I have to throw out my 8 inch Crescent wrench and buy a new 20 cm one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill D View Post
    Will I have to throw out my 8 inch Crescent wrench and buy a new 20 cm one?
    Bill D.
    No, it can be converted to metric for a reasonable cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill D View Post
    Will I have to throw out my 8 inch Crescent wrench and buy a new 20 cm one?
    Bill D.
    First off "No"

    A point for some to note: Within the metal working industry the unit cm is as good as never used. It's either mm (by far the most common) or m.

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    I don't get why feeling run so high in this thread. No one MUST do anything. It's a simple choice and in the final end only the customer decides if it is relevant or important.

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    If you want low cost labor and manufacturing is it inch or metric countries?
    Follow the money, piss on units it is about cash and making it.
    Inch/Imperial system the older economy, Metric more the entry upstarts which have huge growth.
    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarbideBob View Post
    If you want low cost labor and manufacturing is it inch or metric countries?
    Follow the money, piss on units it is about cash and making it.
    Inch/Imperial system the older economy, Metric more the entry upstarts which have huge growth.
    Bob
    In "metric countries" it has nothing to do with labour cost. It's just the normal way to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post
    In "metric countries" it has nothing to do with labour cost. It's just the normal way to work.
    Yeah, out in the field, hammering stuff together with rocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaMoss View Post
    Yeah, out in the field, hammering stuff together with rocks
    Is the field measured in acres or hectares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by camscan View Post
    Is the field measured in acres or hectares?
    Hours. And portal to portal, travel, food, and lodging costing as-had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camscan View Post
    Is the field measured in acres or hectares?
    Sections, I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaMoss View Post
    Sections, I think
    I dont know about that but there is someone on this forum who should be sectioned.

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    I know elevation and temperature will slightly affect the result but in practicality what can be easier than :

    water feezes at 0ºC and boils at 100ºC

    1,000 liters of water = 1 metric ton

    1,000mm = 1m and 1,000 m = 1km.

    Why are there 100c in $1? Who came up with that idea?

    Why Metric is 1 Times Better | Math Jokes 4 Mathy Folks

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    Cm is a part of metric measurement! Perhaps a length or distance?

    But:
    CM. Ducks.
    E....M. r not ducks.
    O s. A ..R

    L i b, EM r ducks.

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