ManicMetalBasher
Hot Rolled
- Joined
- Feb 1, 2014
- Location
- Midlands UK
[
Abbreviations used below.
UK Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA)
UK Environmental Information Regulations 2004 (EIR).
UK Committee on Climate Change (CCC),
The Global Warming Policy Foundation, a UK charity (GWPF).
Comments in square brackets are mine.
From CommiePedia
"The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF) is a lobby group in the United Kingdom whose stated aims are
to challenge "extremely damaging and harmful policies" envisaged by governments to mitigate anthropogenic
global warming.[2] The GWPF as well as some of its prominent members have been characterized as promoting climate
change denial.[3][4]"
Not in the Wikipedia article.
a) The CCC has refused to release data under a FOIA enquiry since June 2019.
b) The GWPF have led the efforts to have the data made available to the public.
c) The CCC were instructed to release the data on 2021-08-07.
Here is a link to the tribunal decision document.
https://www.thegwpf.com/content/uploads/2021/08/Information-Tribunal-ruling.pdf
Some extracts from the pdf.
]
"15. This appeal concerns the following request made by Mr. Montford to the CCC on 23 August 2019:
Please could you send:
(a) the 12 spreadsheets you describe for the road transport sector.
(b) The equivalent spreadsheets for the power sector and the housing sector.
To be clear, I do not require any information to be extracted. I’d like the spreadsheets “as is”.
This should therefore only take a few minutes of your time."
"16. The CCC replied by on [Sic] 23 September 2019. It refused the request on the basis of regulation 12(4)(d)
(material in the course of completion) and 12(4)(b) (cost of compliance)."
"30. Disclosure would shift debate from the substantive environmental issue to perceived deficiencies in the information ..."
"49. The Commissioner notes that the CCC should have preserved a version of the spreadsheets used for the Net Zero Report
on the date of the request, and should not have continually overwritten the spreadsheets since then."
[The NZR was the document upon which the UK Government relied, before allocating £ trillions, and the authors do not have a copy!]
"56. At its highest the CCC’s argument may be that there is other data in the spreadsheet which is incomplete, but this does not
affect the status of the information which Mr. Montford wants and which was used to calculate the 1-2% GDP figure."
"58. The New Zealand Government has put the cost at 16% of GDP annually. There is an overwhelming public interest, on account of
the enormous sums of money involved, in understanding the calculations which gave rise to the headline figure and why the CCC
believes the project will be so much cheaper in the UK."
"63. The CCC questions the value of ‘historical’ spreadsheets. Where they have been used to justify a recommendation of substantial
changes, there is a clear public interest in the basis for that recommendation being interrogated."
"66 ... It is incredible that the CCC does not hold a version of the spreadsheet as it was at the time of publication
of the Net Zero Report."
"69.8. A public authority should not benefit from the unreasonable act of not retaining a copy of the calculations used;"
"71 ... '' particularly because the arguments raised by the CCC are technical attempts to defeat the obligation to release the information
and the only reason it is able to make those arguments is because it has chosen to hold the requested information in a live spreadsheet."
[
Remainder of the document concerns further CCC delaying tactics and the tribunal rejection thereof.
There is plenty more whining by the CCC about their limited resources and their inability to carry out FOIA requests.
If these resources are so small, how was the CCC able to fund the estimated £600,000 legal costs it has incurred delaying the
release of the information?
Are there similar attempts to conceal the facts/manipulate the "facts" about Climate Change/Global Warming where you live?
]
Abbreviations used below.
UK Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA)
UK Environmental Information Regulations 2004 (EIR).
UK Committee on Climate Change (CCC),
The Global Warming Policy Foundation, a UK charity (GWPF).
Comments in square brackets are mine.
From CommiePedia
"The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF) is a lobby group in the United Kingdom whose stated aims are
to challenge "extremely damaging and harmful policies" envisaged by governments to mitigate anthropogenic
global warming.[2] The GWPF as well as some of its prominent members have been characterized as promoting climate
change denial.[3][4]"
Not in the Wikipedia article.
a) The CCC has refused to release data under a FOIA enquiry since June 2019.
b) The GWPF have led the efforts to have the data made available to the public.
c) The CCC were instructed to release the data on 2021-08-07.
Here is a link to the tribunal decision document.
https://www.thegwpf.com/content/uploads/2021/08/Information-Tribunal-ruling.pdf
Some extracts from the pdf.
]
"15. This appeal concerns the following request made by Mr. Montford to the CCC on 23 August 2019:
Please could you send:
(a) the 12 spreadsheets you describe for the road transport sector.
(b) The equivalent spreadsheets for the power sector and the housing sector.
To be clear, I do not require any information to be extracted. I’d like the spreadsheets “as is”.
This should therefore only take a few minutes of your time."
"16. The CCC replied by on [Sic] 23 September 2019. It refused the request on the basis of regulation 12(4)(d)
(material in the course of completion) and 12(4)(b) (cost of compliance)."
"30. Disclosure would shift debate from the substantive environmental issue to perceived deficiencies in the information ..."
"49. The Commissioner notes that the CCC should have preserved a version of the spreadsheets used for the Net Zero Report
on the date of the request, and should not have continually overwritten the spreadsheets since then."
[The NZR was the document upon which the UK Government relied, before allocating £ trillions, and the authors do not have a copy!]
"56. At its highest the CCC’s argument may be that there is other data in the spreadsheet which is incomplete, but this does not
affect the status of the information which Mr. Montford wants and which was used to calculate the 1-2% GDP figure."
"58. The New Zealand Government has put the cost at 16% of GDP annually. There is an overwhelming public interest, on account of
the enormous sums of money involved, in understanding the calculations which gave rise to the headline figure and why the CCC
believes the project will be so much cheaper in the UK."
"63. The CCC questions the value of ‘historical’ spreadsheets. Where they have been used to justify a recommendation of substantial
changes, there is a clear public interest in the basis for that recommendation being interrogated."
"66 ... It is incredible that the CCC does not hold a version of the spreadsheet as it was at the time of publication
of the Net Zero Report."
"69.8. A public authority should not benefit from the unreasonable act of not retaining a copy of the calculations used;"
"71 ... '' particularly because the arguments raised by the CCC are technical attempts to defeat the obligation to release the information
and the only reason it is able to make those arguments is because it has chosen to hold the requested information in a live spreadsheet."
[
Remainder of the document concerns further CCC delaying tactics and the tribunal rejection thereof.
There is plenty more whining by the CCC about their limited resources and their inability to carry out FOIA requests.
If these resources are so small, how was the CCC able to fund the estimated £600,000 legal costs it has incurred delaying the
release of the information?
Are there similar attempts to conceal the facts/manipulate the "facts" about Climate Change/Global Warming where you live?
]
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