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    Quote Originally Posted by chip_maker View Post
    Are you the one making them? I know they're made in OR.

    I see there's soon to be a clutch cover to go with them.
    No, I have nothing to do with them. There was a big thread about them in the general section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garwood View Post
    There was a big thread about them in the general section.
    Oyyyyyyyy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by standardparts View Post
    And...When anodize and other issues rear thier ugly head...delete the anodize, delete some holes, a pocket milling op, get a 80% letter and rock on.

    Move 'em to smaller market at $32. each in 100 lots and small sellers can pick up $25/$35 per unit.

    But you gotta make hay because the rules may change.
    Quote Originally Posted by dstryr View Post
    There are shops with the right equipment that can make a AR lower from a forging in under 15 min.
    $40 is super low but I've seen a lot of people paying around $50 each
    I don't think you're paying $40-50 for a stripped lower that is built to the technical data package (spec) and properly inspected. The vast majority of the market doesn't care since most AR owners maybe run a few rounds through a year at the range if they even shoot them. Anyone doing serious training knows that excepting a few brands of high end guns that are not *really* built to the TDP, anything hobby grade is gonna start choking after about 300 rounds in a day. I remember talking to Pat Rogers about BCM having to reject over 40% of their sourced parts due to failing QC, which is why they started bringing more and more in-house over the last ten years. Then again, I've seen a DPMS with 35k rounds on it so there are trash-tier unicorns out there.

    The old shop I was running went heavy into guns and are doing shitloads of lowers, uppers, and bolts and bolt carriers. They don't have a single air gauge. You can't build those parts to spec without proper gauging. It is what it is, all hobby grade bullshit. Add to that the ATF playing fuck fuck games with the definition of a receiver (trying to make most major parts serialized) and you can count me out of that industry unless I decide to get a Type 07 / Class 02 and pay ITAR just to make myself a belt fed (for the record it would be cheaper than buying at market price even if I paid the fees for another 40 years!).

    I actually dropped by the thread to say I'm a day late and a dollar short - I was gonna buy that R450 LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Finsta View Post
    I don't think you're paying $40-50 for a stripped lower that is built to the technical data package (spec) and properly inspected. The vast majority of the market doesn't care since most AR owners maybe run a few rounds through a year at the range if they even shoot them. Anyone doing serious training knows that excepting a few brands of high end guns that are not *really* built to the TDP, anything hobby grade is gonna start choking after about 300 rounds in a day. I remember talking to Pat Rogers about BCM having to reject over 40% of their sourced parts due to failing QC, which is why they started bringing more and more in-house over the last ten years. Then again, I've seen a DPMS with 35k rounds on it so there are trash-tier unicorns out there.

    The old shop I was running went heavy into guns and are doing shitloads of lowers, uppers, and bolts and bolt carriers. They don't have a single air gauge. You can't build those parts to spec without proper gauging. It is what it is, all hobby grade bullshit. Add to that the ATF playing fuck fuck games with the definition of a receiver (trying to make most major parts serialized) and you can count me out of that industry unless I decide to get a Type 07 / Class 02 and pay ITAR just to make myself a belt fed (for the record it would be cheaper than buying at market price even if I paid the fees for another 40 years!).

    I actually dropped by the thread to say I'm a day late and a dollar short - I was gonna buy that R450 LOL.
    And that nail is well sunk! No shiners there!

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    I must have missed that, glad to hear it got sold and I know that will help you out.

    Charles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Finsta View Post
    I don't think you're paying $40-50 for a stripped lower that is built to the technical data package (spec) and properly inspected. The vast majority of the market doesn't care since most AR owners maybe run a few rounds through a year at the range if they even shoot them. Anyone doing serious training knows that excepting a few brands of high end guns that are not *really* built to the TDP, anything hobby grade is gonna start choking after about 300 rounds in a day. I remember talking to Pat Rogers about BCM having to reject over 40% of their sourced parts due to failing QC, which is why they started bringing more and more in-house over the last ten years. Then again, I've seen a DPMS with 35k rounds on it so there are trash-tier unicorns out there.

    The old shop I was running went heavy into guns and are doing shitloads of lowers, uppers, and bolts and bolt carriers. They don't have a single air gauge. You can't build those parts to spec without proper gauging. It is what it is, all hobby grade bullshit. Add to that the ATF playing fuck fuck games with the definition of a receiver (trying to make most major parts serialized) and you can count me out of that industry unless I decide to get a Type 07 / Class 02 and pay ITAR just to make myself a belt fed (for the record it would be cheaper than buying at market price even if I paid the fees for another 40 years!).

    I actually dropped by the thread to say I'm a day late and a dollar short - I was gonna buy that R450 LOL.
    Good post and very accurate observations regarding the state of the AR market. Much of what you mention carries through into other types of parts and accessories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    Come on fella's.
    Obviously he would rather not reveal the part(s).

    Go speculate in some other thread somewhere.


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    There's no harm in asking. He's a big boy (all 310#) if he doesn't want to tell us what he makes, then he doesn't have too. Simples. I don't think you need to protect Bill's interests, I think he's more than capable of doing that himself.

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    I never tell anybody what I make and who my customers are, I don't let any more than a select few past the front door, so I can avoid somebody guessing at what I do and who it's for. I don't get offended when people ask though, no harm in asking.

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    I'm not even allowed to know what I make or what it's for.


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