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    Iíve been a long time member here but havenít posted much in quite some time. After I moved many years ago I was without a shop space until now. About a year ago we moved again and I finally had some room to build a dedicated shop.

    Iím not a professional machinist. Itís simply something I enjoy doing in my spare time. I like to tinker with metal, woodworking, and electronics. Up to now Iíve always been relegated to making due with whatever spare space I could carve out of a garage. When we moved I looked for a house that already had a dedicated shop space but of course we couldnít find a house that my wife liked that also had a shop. I figured no problem, Iíll just build one later. I had no idea what the costs involved were. It was definitely more expensive than I had assumed.

    I was going to wait until everything was completed and I got moved into the shop before making this post but I figure itís far enough along that Iíll go ahead and share my experience.

    My dream was to build something around 40x100. Once I started looking at the costs involved that quickly went out the window. I started looking at budget minded options. My plan was to go with a Carolina Carports building. I really wanted something that could be climate controlled. I figured I could still insulate it and have a useable shop. The HOA here wouldnít approve it. The Carolina Carports building canít really be customized much beyond the size of the building. My HOA required a 2í overhang on the sides and 1í at the front and back as well as a 4:12 slope for the roof. Carolina Carports simply couldnít do this.

    I ultimately ended up going with a Mueller Building. It was definitely more expensive but now that itís up Iím happy I made that decision. With the expense of the slab, it made more sense to put a substantial building on it.

    To stay reasonable on the cost I ended up going with a 30x40 building. It meets the HOA requirements, has a 13í eve height, a single walk door thatís 4x7, and a roll up door thatís 10x12. The slab is 3500 psi, 5Ē thick with poly underneath, and a smooth troweled surface. I didnít put in any windows. No windows equals more wall space, less cost, and no one peeking in. Roll up door is an Asta 202 insulated R-5 door.

    The building is finally up. Took a little over 3 weeks. Could have been done in about 4 days but rain and scheduling with the erectors stretched that out.

    For electric I had electricians run a 100 amp circuit from the existing house to a sub panel in the shop. They will hopefully finish up and get the outlets and lighting done today. Yesterday they got the electric done for the two AC units.

    For AC I installed 2 x 2 ton Mr. Cool DIY units and did the installation myself. Insulation is open cell spray foam. I forget the thickness but it was much thicker on the roof than the walls. After the insulation was done I hung 3/4 BC plywood up to 8í around the entire perimeter. Plywood was spaced 1/2Ē off the floor and screwed into the first and second girts as well as a piece of base angle on the ground. Wanted something I could hang stuff on without worrying about studs.

    So at the moment, building is up, doors are in, insulation is done, AC units are installed and powered, and plywood is hung. Hopefully electricians will finish lighting and outlets today. After that Iím going to seal the floor and I think Iíll call it done enough to start moving some stuff in.


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    Here are a few pictures...














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    Beautiful building. Mine is 26íX100í. You need a map to get thru it. I had a two story double garage thinking that would be plenty but I kept adding on to get what I now have.
    What part of Houston are you? Iím in Alvin. Have been here since 1984.
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    Iím actually up near Magnolia. Floors done last night. Time to move things in!


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    What machines are you moving in?

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    Oh to have space...

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    I think I need to look in to that spray-foam for my place.
    I would have loved to finish out the inside before I moved in here. But, was in a time crunch.
    Now that I am in, and have utilities running everywhere, it would be near impossible to finish the walls.
    But, I bet spray-foam would be doable.

    Nice looking shop you have though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackrainstorm View Post
    What machines are you moving in?
    Have a Rivett 1020S, a Doall V26, and an Atlas 7B shaper at the moment. Been on the lookout for a mill but havenít seen anything pop up that I really like yet. Also have a 60 watt CO2 laser.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelieking71 View Post
    I think I need to look in to that spray-foam for my place.
    I would have loved to finish out the inside before I moved in here. But, was in a time crunch.
    Now that I am in, and have utilities running everywhere, it would be near impossible to finish the walls.
    But, I bet spray-foam would be doable.

    Nice looking shop you have though.
    The spray foam was pretty reasonable. From start to finish took them about 5 hours. I think the 3/4 ply on the walls will work well for what Iím wanting. Finished the floors with Legacy Industrial HD40.


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    Bill, I have spray foam in my shop, itís also 30 by 40, but has 16 foot high walls! My shop is not air conditioned, it was 101 degrees outside yesterday, however in the shop it was 86 degrees! Still hot, but the spray foam works great. And if my shop ever gets consistently busy, I will install AC.


    Quote Originally Posted by wheelieking71 View Post
    I think I need to look in to that spray-foam for my place.
    I would have loved to finish out the inside before I moved in here. But, was in a time crunch.
    Now that I am in, and have utilities running everywhere, it would be near impossible to finish the walls.
    But, I bet spray-foam would be doable.

    Nice looking shop you have though.

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    The best thing about the AC, aside from cool air, is the humidity control. Iím in Houston where itís typically 75%+. With the AC itís about 45% in the shop.


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    Iím closer to the gulf than you are so the humidity is worse. I go out in the shop some mornings and the water is actually dripping off the machines. When they poured the part of my slab where most of my machines are they didnít put plastic down. That really makes a difference too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelieking71 View Post
    I think I need to look in to that spray-foam for my place.
    I would have loved to finish out the inside before I moved in here. But, was in a time crunch.
    Now that I am in, and have utilities running everywhere, it would be near impossible to finish the walls.
    But, I bet spray-foam would be doable.

    Nice looking shop you have though.


    I would expect the opposite.
    When they blow that stuff, it's a big deal and they "tarp" the floor and all as it gits everywhere.

    But I could see that it would be highly worthwhile to doo in your shop if you were slow and had time to move everything out for a day or so.


    Should be quite able to stay comfy in this box!
    A lot easier than if you went with the 40x100!


    Also - highly interesting that you live in an area that has a HOA and yet you have trees and big yards and room to even consider puting a 40 x 100 building!
    Not where I envision a HOA being...
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    Nice shop ! !

    Any chance you have the gradient color map for that thermal picture ?
    Really interesting to see the temp difference between the beams and the insulated areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    I would expect the opposite. When they blow that stuff, it's a big deal and they "tarp" the floor and all as it gits everywhere.
    I can vouch for that!

    They did a great job in our building.......till they got to the end. Must have been close to quittin time when they got there because they got sloppy and the crap was all over the floor.

    Another thing to consider if you do it wheelie, that stuff outgasses for a day or too, maybe more?

    In our case that was not a big deal as the building was under construction overhead doors were not yet installed. Couldn't go in there for a couple days though.

    I really like the stuff though, we put 6" on the roof and 3" in the walls. It seals up everything and "tightens up" the building when it hardens.

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    I had wanted to do steel construction but couldn’t swing it, curious what the building cost if you don’t mind sharing?

    Looks like a real nice shop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fal Grunt View Post
    I had wanted to do steel construction but couldnít swing it, curious what the building cost if you donít mind sharing?

    Looks like a real nice shop!
    The building was about $16,500. Thatís just the building itself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TravisR100 View Post
    My HOA required a 2í overhang on the sides
    Houston is a hurricane area, 2' overhang is nuts, absolutely nuts. I would have had the HOA in court. On second thought I would have never bought in an HOA in the first place because of rules like this.

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    Looks great!.... and with that insulation the AC won't cost much.

    Our plant has AC and it make these heat waves a non issue. I really like not having surface rust on everything, especially since we work with stainless primarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TravisR100 View Post
    The building was about $16,500. That’s just the building itself.


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    That’s just materials, no assembly, correct?

    Just was curious for comparison sake.

    Thanks


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