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    I could only guess as to what the machine was, so I googled it, and found a couple of pics of yours that I hadn't seen before.
    ???

    That's a lot of warrs there, so there must be several motors on this thing?

    Power knee for sure?
    Have you tried the switch for that?

    Is there any other "independant motor" controlled movements?

    Maybe an oil pump(s)?
    Machine lube and coolant?

    The buzz will normally go away soon if you run it much.


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    Last edited by Ox; 11-05-2018 at 05:37 PM. Reason: Part of the first sentence was missing it seems. ???

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    Ok after I posted that I sort of had a eureka moment.

    This thing has a main drive motor, feed/rapid motor, and coolant motor. No lube pump I can see/know of.

    The motor starters aren't really show in the picture of video, but they are massive things. I've got two, one for forward and one for reverse.

    Then the starter with the red arrow on the bottom left, must run the knee motor. I heard a faint mechanical whirring noise from the machine when that starter energized. That's one of the reasons I stopped messing with the machine, the knee dosent have any oil in it right now.

    The starter next to that must run the coolant pump, I can see the small wire from the coolant switch going to the coil.

    I'm still confused with the top things are. The one with the arrow on the top left and two things next to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alskdjfhg View Post
    Ok after I posted that I sort of had a eureka moment.

    This thing has a main drive motor, feed/rapid motor, and coolant motor. No lube pump I can see/know of.

    The motor starters aren't really show in the picture of video, but they are massive things. I've got two, one for forward and one for reverse.

    Then the starter with the red arrow on the bottom left, must run the knee motor. I heard a faint mechanical whirring noise from the machine when that starter energized. That's one of the reasons I stopped messing with the machine, the knee dosent have any oil in it right now.

    The starter next to that must run the coolant pump, I can see the small wire from the coolant switch going to the coil.

    I'm still confused with the top things are. The one with the arrow on the top left and two things next to it.
    Look like old school overloads

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    Quote Originally Posted by pressbrake1 View Post
    Look like old school overloads
    Yah, well, the starters are all 1950's vintage.

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    Ok since I'm sort of oriented a little bit better now, I'll try it again and maybe get it going.

    The breaker in the machine has a label of '53 and the machine was built either '53 or '54

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    The inside looks the same as my 3CH. Did you use a motor rotation meter before putting power to it? Don’t ask me how I know but my 3CH will make all kinds of noise if I try starting it backwards.

    Idk if the start up sequence is the same for your mill?
    Push the master start and hear a slight hum. Push the handle forward and the spindle starts, push the handle forward again and the feed/elevation motor starts up. You’ll know it’s running because the feed shaft on the right side of the knee will be spinning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alskdjfhg View Post
    A lot of the tags are in both english and Chinese.

    It says but date is November (dont exactly remeber the month) of 1972.

    And I highly doubt there are many of these in the states, since its originally Chinese built. But presumably a copy of a British or Russian machine.

    A picture of the tag is in the old thread about this machine. But its date of manufacture is kinda irrelevant to getting the motors turning.

    Those toggle switches would work, but this machine is 440V only, there were rated to 380v.

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    American Pacemaker is coming togeather. Took $50 worth of new bearings, but seems to be silky smooth now.

    Just need a motor starter and to free up the tailstock.

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    Life just seems to keep getting busier and busier, and even though I dont post much on here anymore, I'm still working on stuff.

    Finally got the crane moved in front of the shop, needs a few minor things and the boom reattached, but should be easier to work on in front of the shop and not in a mud hole in a pasture....

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    You could try it out on the Case(?) tractor behind it.

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    Looks like a 930.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    Looks like a 930.


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    Close. 730 gas.

    The 930 is in the shop getting some work done, along with a 700.

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    I was originally going to say 830 as it didn't seem real tall, but distance and camera ~~~~

    But the tires look pretty wide for an 830, so .....

    ... so I guess it boils down to - you must have some big meats on that 730?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    I was originally going to say 830 as it didn't seem real tall, but distance and camera ~~~~

    But the tires look pretty wide for an 830, so .....

    ... so I guess it boils down to - you must have some big meats on that 730?


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    Rice and cane tires. 930 has them as well. Makes the tractor look real big and tall, but crazy flotation.

    Since it's got a loader (an orginal case loader too) Dad put oversize backhoe tires on the fronts.

    Actually can be made into a runner without too much fuss, but it's kinda on the bottom of the list.

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    Anyone know how this comes apart? It's part of the cross slide of a 24" American Pacemaker. Bearing is seized and I need to replace it

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    Hi Matt

    PDF page 29 has cross section - houses a ball stop similar to L&S. Thanks to Greg Menke for hosting this for me.

    http://pounceatron.dreamhosters.com/...in-20-1966.pdf

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    Ok thanks, I'll be able to open the pdf when I get back to the house

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    Got the spindle to extend, turn, and facing head to move on this piece of shit.

    Might be able to get it running.

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    Just read the thread today, heck of a shop!

    How is school going? I did three years of ME while serving my Tool & Die apprenticeship. By that point things were getting FAR too theoretical for me.

    I am sorry to hear that the Abrasive surface grinder was a POS, but I am really happy that the Moore wound up being a cheery. I use the one I bought all the time. If I have a shop full of CNC mills I will still have my Moore.

    If you ever see anything else you can’t live without at HGR, don’t hesitate to ask, if I can, I am happy to help.

    I have bought several transformers from McKean Machinery, and a few from HGR.

    A couple thoughts I had while reading the thread. You mentioned the power issues. You may want to split up your shop into a high/low load system. A smaller RPC from your small equipment on a different system than the big equipment.

    Also you may want to split out your 440 equipment to a leg. I have my 440 split out with a disconnect so the transformer is offline except when i need it. Power up the transformer and both my Moore and K&T are powered up.

    Another consideration is a “soft start” for your larger equipment.

    And finally, most farms around us have 440 3 phase, or have it available. I don’t know how your property of equipment is setup, but if you have a farm, hopefully it is all farm equipment, and run through your farm. If this is the case, the power company may be able to hook up 3-phase to your farm building, and they would probably be willing to do it to offset the hard draw on their residential connections.

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    Still in school, have one more semester, supposed to graduate in December.

    I dont get on PM much any more, I've been working in a large turbine repair shop for the last year or so, working 30 - 80 hours a week depending on weather or not I've got school.

    Still working on stuff at the farm, but it's slow.

    Since I was allowed to use these picture in my final presentation, I think it's ok to show it here. Gives an idea of the parts I'm working with



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