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    Quote Originally Posted by JP Machining View Post
    If you call that full.....

    I remember your old shop, that was full, and that was back when you only had 1 mill and a lathe

    Looks like its time for the Cub cadet to live in the house garage, sacrifices may have to be made but...

    One of my customers was over the other day, admiring a new section of pallet rack I put up over the end of the turning center, said something about how I had nowhere to go but up.
    I just keep buying stuff..............picked up a truck/trailer load of stuff last weekend from an auction. I got home and was cringing at the idea of more clutter. At least two of the items I bought were steel storage cabinets. I can always pile them full...............................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    Cub Cadet?

    That thing's'a Binder?
    Yella?







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    Think Snow Eh!
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    I have no idea who owns the Cub Cadet name nowadays, but you can be sure that thing is Asian in origin. I don't think anyone is building tractors in the US between 20hp lawn mowers and about 60hp utility tractors. That's been the domain of Japanese and Korean tractors for 30 years.

    I know Kubota and Mahindra market their own stuff here. But, Shibura, Mitsubishi (Satoh, Bison, etc), Yanmar, Iseki, Kioti, Bronson, et al have long been passed off under various storied US brands.

    I don't know how Japan came to dominate the world of small diesel powered equipment, but they sure have the market share. Mini excavators, tractors, track loaders, small dozers, and they provide the engines for scores of other machines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    Cub Cadet?

    That thing's'a Binder?
    Yella?







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    Not one ounce of IH in 'er. She's all Japanese.

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    I thought Kubota built tractors in their (Atlanta?) Georgia factory?

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    Yanmar is assembled in GA too........................still a Japanese Co. though.............................

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    An old high school mate just started his own equipment repair last year. Ive been doing a few small jobs here and there for him... Anyway to make a short story longer, he had a fork lift in there the other day, gas, hyster, i wanna say 6k cap for 3000$. That didnt seem awful to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allloutmx View Post
    An old high school mate just started his own equipment repair last year. Ive been doing a few small jobs here and there for him... Anyway to make a short story longer, he had a fork lift in there the other day, gas, hyster, i wanna say 6k cap for 3000$. That didnt seem awful to me.
    Lil old lifts with pneumatic tires around here go for $4-5K on average............doesn't matter what make it is either. If it's a 3k-5k lift, they are hard to come by. If they have cushion tires though, they almost give them away. This Yale is a 5K lift and I picked it up for $3k. I've looked at others in much, much worse shape going for much more. You can't get a "pretty" lift until you spend close to $10k or more. I could never justify that when I only use a lift 2 or 3 times a week.

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    I don't know how anyone has a machine shop without a forklift. That tractor is OK, but no substitute for the real thing. I got a forklift before I ever bought a single machine. I use it several times a day. I don't think people realize how handy they are until they have one.

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    We got a boom from the fork truck that fell off a truck at my old mans shop. We were always going to build something to use that old Clark mast on the rear of the tractor but so far it just sits there.

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    Well, I have to turn this pile of Ali into parts, but mostly chips. Starting with 2075 lbs of stock will end up with 396 lbs of parts and the rest chips for the scrap man. Boy I wish I had a horizontal and an auto saw for jobs like this. And I'm sure someone will chime in and tell me to go out and buy them or just send the job out.

    Anyways.....................



    So there would be three OPs without the 4th. Mill, flip, mill, stand on edge, drill and thread mill. I decided to build a very simple fixture for the 4th. First OP in a vise and 2nd and third on the 4th.

    I thought I'd show the the fixture build to show how handy it is havin the manual machines still hangin around the shop. I don't know how some shops get along without a manual mill and lathe tucked away in some corner.................

    Sawed up and deburred...............



    Crankin handles...................



    Squared up........................

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    Quote Originally Posted by david n View Post
    And I'm sure someone will chime in and tell me to go out and buy them or just send the job out.
    You have been paying attention to my thread I see

    Nice pile of stock! Tuned in to see the fixture!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelieking71 View Post
    You have been paying attention to my thread I see
    Yeah I noticed the "advice" you got. I started a thread a couple of months ago askin about a fixture design on some parts that needed turning and milling. OP 1 and 2 were turned. OP 3 need a 4th axis fixture that held at least 8 parts. Simple part. I make similar parts for the same customer, but these were a little different and needed different workholding on the 4th. I got plenty telling me to run them on a lathe with live toolin' complete, run them on a mill/turn, send them out to a shop that has those types of machines, etc......................but hardy any advice on the fixturing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelieking71 View Post
    You have been paying attention to my thread I see

    Nice pile of stock! Tuned in to see the fixture!!!!!
    People never get tired of telling you how to spend your money... I also look forward to seeing the progress, thanks for sharing.

    Charles

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    Quote Originally Posted by david n View Post
    ............but hardy any advice on the fixturing.

    I stand by my point - that you don't need advice for such things.
    You come up with very good ones yourself.
    Asking for ideas is nothing but a fishing expedition from you.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    I stand by my point - that you don't need advice for such things.
    You come up with very good ones yourself.
    Asking for ideas is nothing but a fishing expedition from you.




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    You know that I meant that in the bestest of ways eh?
    Ox
    99% of the time I don't question my fixture designs, but every now and then I have a brain fart. Either I can't see an easy way to do it or I have machinist block(kinda like writer's block). It's good to throw something on the forum once in a while and see if there is more than one way to skin that kitty.

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    So like I said, this is a pretty simple fixture. All the Ali gets turned into 2 very similar parts so I made the fixture compatible for both. This is the first time run of these parts and I'm not sure where the numbers will be down the road, so I kept my setup really basic, two vises and a plain jane fixture. If the customer starts ordering 1000's, I'll max out my mill table and 4th at that time....................

    After squaring everything up, I used my vise to clamp the parts together nice and square. I held it together with a C clamp and threw it on the welding table.........................



    All burnt together. The little 212 Millermatic laid down some nice big beads............................



    Now establish a nice flat surface......................



    And spin up a pilot to fit the 4th axis......................


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    I can smell the Moly from here

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    Quote Originally Posted by allloutmx View Post
    I can smell the Moly from here
    Evidently Moly Dee isn't sexy to everyone. My lil woman doesn't much care for the fragrance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david n View Post
    Evidently Moly Dee isn't sexy to everyone. My lil woman doesn't much care for the fragrance.
    My lil woman cant stand the smell of hard work either. Shes back in school...again. When she gets her degree she will be able to get a good job with health benefits, then itll be my turn to be stay at home machine shop Dad.

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    I threw the fixture in a VMC to finish off the side that will get mounted to the 4th. Milled 'er flat, milled a C'bore for the pilot, and popped in a few mounting holes.

    Gettin there.............



    So after she was mounted on the 4th, it was time to finish it off. I ended up chewin off more iron than I had planned. I miscalculated how much swing there would be at the corners of the fixture with the part mounted. No big deal really. I also drilled and tapped a few extra holes for clamping. I wasn't sure how few screws I could get away with when holding a part........................



    The clamp are just "top hats". They are semi-circled for the cross drilling op. I need a place for the chips to get out and the coolant to get in.
    Material all ready for cutting..............................




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