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    Oldwrench (Tony?),

    Thanks for sharing the link, and more pictures. I didn't realize you were on here. I am a small, but very satisfied customer of yours. After reading your catalog, I knew there was a lot of thought and technology that went into your stuff, and this only confirms it.

    Here's a pic of one of your racks, U-joints, etc. on the front of my pavement sprint car project:



    Graham

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    I didn't see the plant, and I'm no tree-hugging green thumb either, but it honestly is amazing what a couple plants and natural light can do for one's working atmosphere. A couple months ago I spent some time training at Fanuc up in michigan. As their HQ and main training facility, no doubt it was built to impress, but it did leave a lasting impression on me. The place had huge windows looking outside to nicely kept landscaping / woods, complete with a pond and wildlife and everything. Lots of plants inside right beside the robots as well. It sure does have an effect on a workers mood for sure..

    I too am interested in the how/why the all-woman shop came about...

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    Well - it must not be "all" women unless he goes by Toni instead.


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    I think in French Toni for a man is proper spelling. Toni Musulin, in France.
    ( Loomis armed car heist, another story in it's self . Look up the movie 11.6 )

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    Sure, yuh gotta go and drag your Frog's into this eh?




    Let's check and see:

    Wrench - how doo you pronounce Bombardier and Quebec?



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    With all those women it looks like a war time factory in england with cnc instead of capstan !

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    Or the US, Japan, Russia, or Germany...


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    Last edited by Ox; 12-07-2013 at 03:33 PM. Reason: Added Russia!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    Or the US, Japan, or Germany...


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    I do apologise , perhaps I should have said every factory in the world during ww2 (except the french)

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    There we go again with the Frenchies!


    Just guessing that someone here has a rifle for sale now too eh?



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    No Frenchies....I didn't see any white flags hangin in the shop.

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    Okay, men need to have some problem solving in their day, but the women. . . Women for some reason can do one simple task all day long and go home happy as a lark. It really is an anomaly. If you have the option to hire a woman unskilled in welding or a man highly skilled in welding to do a repetitive job like melting one piece together all day long 10 years straight, hire the woman and teach her to weld.

    One of the best manufacturing shops I have had the honor to walk into ran a screw machine plant for the m16 rifle sights. one of his screw machine shops hired nothing but women.

    our Secretary did this and only this for three days straight. The guy doing the second operation much similar wanted to quit after a day. . . he eventually quit because he got a big check, "16k" in the mail.


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    Second op on sights?
    This is a stamping opp?


    $16K is a big enough check to allow a person to quit their job?


    What's the pic of?


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    It's a movie, click on it.

    Assembly work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    Second op on sights?
    This is a stamping opp?


    $16K is a big enough check to allow a person to quit their job?


    What's the pic of?


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    Apparently it was enough for him. I liked the guy but a deep thinker he was not.

    Yes the pic is an assembly video. I ran this operation for a bit but the boss pulled me off so I could keep tooling and dies for the production drill and the pin press "second and third operation" fixed and running. I don't think I was ever that relived.

    The secretary ended up running most of the machines and was much more productive than the man. The machines would get abandoned because he would get distracted or bored.

    Edit: just don't tell anyone your hiring based on gender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alonzo83 View Post

    Edit: just don't tell anyone your hiring based on gender.
    Yea that could get you in trouble...but not as much as having them where tight cut down tee shirts and short shorts... Oh yea different industry different rules.

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    The fact that the staff is almost all women is partly due to an excellent State program offering training for single moms who qualify. There is no machinist training program but we hire graduates of the welding program because they have already learned a mechanical skill and have had training in shop safety. While the program is very well-intentioned, most of the welding jobs available in the oil patch unfortunately involve working outdoors in the cold and the mud and at all hours, which is not a practical occupation for single mothers. They have kids, or course, and get calls from day care, school, etc., which interruptions we can work around but which the oil patch cannot. It is by no means a hiring bias to consider their training, a dexterity generally superior to that of men (which is not a myth) and mostly pleasant attitude, as a much better indicator of success than the applicants we get from the existing "experienced" workforce. Obviously I can't violate confidentiality here, but I never heard from a guy that he was glad of the opportunity to earn 3 times his former wages as a motel maid...or to be associating with a better class of co-workers...or to say he was proud of having got off food stamps. It is humbling to be the leader of a group like this.

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    Boy - I don't think that most folks that have werked with women would have said .... about anything that you did!

    Was actually discussing that with a chumm and his co-werker just yesterday.
    Their stories doo not mirror yours - that's for sure!

    You must have a much better class of losers out there!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    ...You must have a much better class of losers out there! Ox
    Not everyone who comes from a disadvantaged earlier life is a loser. You could have a 130 IQ but if you got knocked up in high school and daddy is nowhere to be found, it's easy to end up behind the eight ball. We tend to forget that their great grandmothers built B-17s and Liberty ships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    Well - it must not be "all" women unless he goes by Toni instead.


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    If he was a girl wouldn't his name on PM be "Oldwench"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    Boy - I don't think that most folks that have werked with women would have said .... about anything that you did!

    Was actually discussing that with a chumm and his co-werker just yesterday.
    Their stories doo not mirror yours - that's for sure!

    You must have a much better class of losers out there!
    Good interview screening skills and you can find capable and trainable folks just about ANYWHERE.

    Use to get frustrated when someone would question one of my appointments with 'But she's never done that before!'

    Standard response became: "No, and at one time she couldn't eat solid food, walk upright, or change her own diaper, either. None of us could. But she learned all that, and she will learn this also. Moreover, with her pleasant personality, people will HELP her learn. "

    Larger sister company hired on 'credentials'. I hired on personality fit to the job at hand and where it might go in future.

    Guess who had the lower turnover and happiest, most flexible, and productive staff?

    Worked a treat.

    Bill

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