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    Fk'n kids

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post
    What has any of this to do with metrology?
    A direct measurement of the man perhaps.

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    Guys, stuff like this proves no point other than negativity. Let it play out like it's supposed to, don't force it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plastikdreams View Post
    Guys, stuff like this proves no point other than negativity. Let it play out like it's supposed to, don't force it.
    I'm thinking you're young and not a grumpy old handlewinder?
    Yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    I'm thinking you're young and not a grumpy old handlewinder?
    Yet?
    I'm 38 and well on my way

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    Quote Originally Posted by plastikdreams View Post
    I'm 38 and well on my way
    Well put your back in to it man!





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    Quote Originally Posted by plastikdreams View Post
    I'm 38 and well on my way
    Ah, at 38 I also struggled with the difference between negativity and truth based lulz

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    I had a very short ignore list and Gordon was on it, looks like now since he is a mod I cannot ignore him. I can't believe they made that annoying troll a mod. This place has went way down hill. I probably will just look for work in the RFQ section and basically stay away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualkit View Post
    I had a very short ignore list and Gordon was on it, looks like now since he is a mod I cannot ignore him. I can't believe they made that annoying troll a mod. This place has went way down hill. I probably will just look for work in the RFQ section and basically stay away.
    That is a terrible waste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post
    I deleted 2 posts in the hope that this thread would die. I've now undeleted the 2 to make the "collection" complete.

    The posts (and their posters) serve no other purpose than make a mockery of PM and disrespect for what Leigh stood for.

    The logical thing to do would be to see how things went with me as moderator. If they didn't work out over time then I'm sure Milicron (Don) would know what to do.
    I completely agree. My wise old grandmother used to call worrying about things that hadn't happened and might not happen "borrowing trouble".

    IMO best to give him a chance and complain later if he fails to exercise moderation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plastikdreams View Post
    Guys, stuff like this proves no point other than negativity. Let it play out like it's supposed to, don't force it.
    Prezactly.

    Gordon is only ONE mortal fool, not a whole tribe of 'em.

    He doesn't have the time and energy to destroy the ENTIRETY of PM, no matter how dedicated he has been at his chosen life work.

    Bad as he is, yah don't "see" it if yah don't READ it, so he is waay less annoying than robocalls on the phone.

    Simply go around the silly sumbich as if he were just one more noisy fool of a politician on the TV, a reverse-mortgage salesman, metal debris lying in the motorway, or dog-turd on a footpath.

    Gawd knows we have enough PRACTICE at all that, yah?

    Why should this be any more difficult?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post

    Gordon is only ONE mortal fool, not a whole tribe of 'em.

    He doesn't have the time and energy to destroy the ENTIRETY of PM, no matter how dedicated he has been at his chosen life work.


    #1 Not so sure...There's at least a couple of personalities in there...

    #2 Yes he has...

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    #1 Not so sure...There's at least a couple of personalities in there...

    #2 Yes he has...
    Use your fingers man and when you run out of those you can take your socks off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camscan View Post
    Use your fingers man and when you run out of those you can take your socks off.
    "Socks"?

    Effete snobs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post
    "Socks"?

    Effete snobs...

    "Shoes"?

    Effete snobs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottl View Post
    "Shoes"?

    Effete snobs...
    Taxes as they are around here?

    Only the wealthy still have an ASS, let alone anything below it.

    "Right" wing-nuts cogitating over the economic advantage of smoking "Left" wing-nuts for pork jerky, on account of the oversupply and how easy they are to catch got pulled up short by wiser and more experienced moderate independents.

    "Not gonna work. Yah ever try to CLEAN one of 'em?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottl View Post
    IMO best to give him a chance and complain later if he fails to exercise moderation.
    The unmentioned elephant in the room - Leigh set a pretty low bar for moderation in this sub. It's distasteful to say it now he's not here to defend himself, but that's the reality. More than once he disagreed with me enough to delete my posts, once simply because he didn't understand something I posted - which very much rubbed me up the wrong way.

    Mark's promise not to do such was a good chunk of why he would have been my preferred choice. Gordon's suggestion that it's sometimes necessary (and his promptness in doing so ITT, albeit retracted) is what makes me cautious about his fitness for the role.

    Otherwise, I struggle to get quite as upset about Gordon as others do. I get that he annoys people enough to block him, and now his rank displaces that ability.

    I also note that Gordon was frequently (permanently?) at loggerheads with Leigh, more so than I or any other I can think of, and given the thankless nature of moderating in general I can't help but wonder if Gordon's motive to assume moderation of what was Leigh's domain is just a way for him to "win".

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregormarwick View Post
    The unmentioned elephant in the room - Leigh set a pretty low bar for moderation in this sub. It's distasteful to say it now he's not here to defend himself, but that's the reality. More than once he disagreed with me enough to delete my posts, once simply because he didn't understand something I posted - which very much rubbed me up the wrong way.
    "since you mentioned it.." Leigh and I had that sort of chat offline, too. That his OVER involvement lead to the whole forum falling into disuse off the back of the "overhead" chronically interfering with the sharing.

    And we've ALREADY had PM's pet nutter delete, then restore posts? We'd never have even NOTICED they'd briefly been absent.

    Except he had to BRAG - in "strong" typeface, yet, about his magnificent power to do BOTH! That was no accident. It was a gloat, and contrived a-purpose as an assault on the good nature of the community.

    "LOOK At ME!" Still yet again. Already.


    Mark's promise not to do such was a good chunk of why he would have been my preferred choice. Gordon's suggestion that it's sometimes necessary (and his promptness in doing so ITT, albeit retracted) is what makes me cautious about his fitness for the role.
    Same here. Mark and I may disagree, but he's a functioning ADULT.

    No real risk there. Metrology in particular, or PM in general are only a small corner of his life, I am sure.

    Mark would simply do the damned job. No drama to it.

    It isn't really that HARD unless one makes it hard, after all.

    See our most universal of moderators. Milacron himself, all forums but a few, and as light a hand at it as could be asked for.

    Good example to read, heed, and emulate?

    It has worked well and lasted a long time, so it surely seems so.

    Why mess with success?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post
    "since you mentioned it.." Leigh and I had that sort of chat offline, too. That his OVER involvement lead to the whole forum falling into disuse off the back of the "overhead" chronically interfering with the sharing.

    And we've ALREADY had PM's pet nutter delete, then restore posts? We'd never have even NOTICED they'd briefly been absent.

    Except he had to BRAG about his magnificent power to do BOTH! That was no accident. It was a gloat, and contrived a-purpose as an assault on the good nature of the community.

    Still yet again. Already.

    Same here. Mark and I may disagree, but he's a functioning ADULT.

    No real risk there. Metrology in particular, or PM in general are only a small corner of his life, I am sure.

    Mark would simply do the damned job. No drama to it.

    It isn't really that HARD unless one makes it hard, after all.

    See our most universal of moderators. Milacron himself, all forums but a few, and as light a hand at it as could be asked for.

    Good example to read, heed, and emulate?

    Seems so.
    And that is why I started the thread.
    I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camscan View Post
    And that is why I started the thread.
    I think.
    Yah done right. Easier to prevent corrosion than have to smelt scrap and start over.


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