spirous
Plastic
- Joined
- Aug 24, 2016
- Location
- thessaloniki, Gr
Greetings to the biggest machinist community,
I join you today as a sequel of the possession of my new toy, a schaublin-simonet 102 lathe.
One,of the many, important things you have to consider when wanting to create precise parts, is to be able to measure accurately and reliably. I posses a couple of vernier calipers, of the cheap kind, but i m getting interested into obtaining a more reliable one. I 've read in some previous posts in the forum, discussions about people trusting or having good results with some Chinese good quality calipers that would probably be doing the job quite good. I mean, i have also bought some quality products from China myself but also some .. bad. But the question here comes to reliability, and particularly why to not buy a tool from a top-famed manufacturer if having the chance. And what i'm trying to figure out is, if what i found is really a chance..
While researching i found this http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mitutoyo-Digital-Vernier-Caliper-0-150mm0-01-Precision-LCD-Micrometer-Measuring-Stainless-Steel-Inspectors-Measuring-Tools/32708744490.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.214.UfvzMq&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_5_10057_10056_10065_10037_10055_10054_301_10059_10058_10032_10017_107_10060_10061_10052_414_10062_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_2&btsid=5e7972b4-dce8-4c52-b163-2aa93fef63d2 mitutoyo 530-312 caliper being sold from a Chinese dealer, but claiming to be the original Japanese one, selling at a price a bit less than half than my local mitutoyo distributor's. Now, after searching more, i came out quite some people making youtube video's and posts declaring of being cheated by internet dealers who sold them supposed mitutoyo calipers and after even paying quite much more money for the products than the one in the aforementioned ad, they realized they didn't receive the original one. They usually make some points of identification while comparing theirs to the original. For me, while comparing this with the one in mitutoyo's catalogue http://www.gousoulis.gr/gr_upload/htmlarea/mechanical%20calipers.pdf, 4 4 Not Found 1, i wasn't able to identify something looking as a significant difference. there is a serial number at the bottom end of the one from the Chinese dealer while you cannot see it on the mitutoyo's catalogue and maybe the thumb screw is not identical (can't tell for sure), but could it be that these were just used for an amount of pieces, or after the catalogue was made or something? I send an email to the company to ask if they can identify this product as a genuine mitutoyo product but didn't receive any reply. So my question here, would be, do we have any specific clue from the pictures or the description that this is not an original mitutoyo product? It is quite safer to buy from the authorized dealer, but it could also be that the Chinese one because of large stock obtain or small country taxes or some reason, manages to sell to these prices the original product. That would be nice..
I join you today as a sequel of the possession of my new toy, a schaublin-simonet 102 lathe.
One,of the many, important things you have to consider when wanting to create precise parts, is to be able to measure accurately and reliably. I posses a couple of vernier calipers, of the cheap kind, but i m getting interested into obtaining a more reliable one. I 've read in some previous posts in the forum, discussions about people trusting or having good results with some Chinese good quality calipers that would probably be doing the job quite good. I mean, i have also bought some quality products from China myself but also some .. bad. But the question here comes to reliability, and particularly why to not buy a tool from a top-famed manufacturer if having the chance. And what i'm trying to figure out is, if what i found is really a chance..
While researching i found this http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mitutoyo-Digital-Vernier-Caliper-0-150mm0-01-Precision-LCD-Micrometer-Measuring-Stainless-Steel-Inspectors-Measuring-Tools/32708744490.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.214.UfvzMq&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_5_10057_10056_10065_10037_10055_10054_301_10059_10058_10032_10017_107_10060_10061_10052_414_10062_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_2&btsid=5e7972b4-dce8-4c52-b163-2aa93fef63d2 mitutoyo 530-312 caliper being sold from a Chinese dealer, but claiming to be the original Japanese one, selling at a price a bit less than half than my local mitutoyo distributor's. Now, after searching more, i came out quite some people making youtube video's and posts declaring of being cheated by internet dealers who sold them supposed mitutoyo calipers and after even paying quite much more money for the products than the one in the aforementioned ad, they realized they didn't receive the original one. They usually make some points of identification while comparing theirs to the original. For me, while comparing this with the one in mitutoyo's catalogue http://www.gousoulis.gr/gr_upload/htmlarea/mechanical%20calipers.pdf, 4 4 Not Found 1, i wasn't able to identify something looking as a significant difference. there is a serial number at the bottom end of the one from the Chinese dealer while you cannot see it on the mitutoyo's catalogue and maybe the thumb screw is not identical (can't tell for sure), but could it be that these were just used for an amount of pieces, or after the catalogue was made or something? I send an email to the company to ask if they can identify this product as a genuine mitutoyo product but didn't receive any reply. So my question here, would be, do we have any specific clue from the pictures or the description that this is not an original mitutoyo product? It is quite safer to buy from the authorized dealer, but it could also be that the Chinese one because of large stock obtain or small country taxes or some reason, manages to sell to these prices the original product. That would be nice..