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    Hey guys;

    Would appreciate some advice on this find. No machinist background, looking to learn from someone local that has been in the trade and found this through a friend. Has sat in a garage for the past 4 years. He saw it running about 15 years ago and said it runs on 220 single phase. Just came across it recently and the guy wants it out of his garage. Probably a couple hundred bucks will get it but have to move it and not sure if is worth pursuing. Would like your guys opinion on the condition and what you see knowing the 10EE as well as you do. Looking for a lathe to learn on for a farm shop and cause I like to learn new things.

    Hope the pics show up and ask away and I'll tell you what I know as of now.

    Thanks..........20181001_172344.jpg20181001_171741.jpg20181001_172514.jpg20181001_172619.jpg20181001_172652.jpg

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    Grab it with both hands and use a foot just in case one hand slips.

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    More pics.......20181001_172433.jpg20181001_172735.jpg20181001_173445.jpg20181001_173456.jpg20181001_172440.jpg
    Hope the pics help!
    Last edited by Zap921; 10-02-2018 at 06:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter. View Post
    Grab it with both hands and use a foot just in case one hand slips.
    As in: Don't let it get away?

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    yes, that's what he is saying, but understand that it's like the gift that keeps on giving. in other words, its a fantastic, legendary piece of American machine tooling that will suck you in, and potentially take over your life, if you let it.
    looks to be in decent shape, but use caution!

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    Is that a factory cross-slide that says "AccuRite 5" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zap921 View Post
    Is that a factory cross-slide that says "AccuRite 5" ?
    Teasing, right?

    DRO. Long-axis, even.

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    That lathe is a scary lathe...
    It is what lots of guys dream of....
    It might be possible to have a running lathe for the couple hundred bucks.... Which would be a wondrous thing.... If its DOA you could part it out for way more than you paid...
    So it could be anything from a great deal to a okay deal if you have to part it out...

    Either way hurry this kinda chance evaporates real quick!

    FYI thats a decent name brand DRO scale. Another thing that might make this lathe a dream machine or a nightmare money pit.
    Last edited by lazz; 10-02-2018 at 09:22 AM.

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    Thanks guys,

    Stopping by again later this week to check into it further. Anything that I should really check out further for piece of mind purposes? No way to check it running in the garage it was left in.

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    the basics are bed wear and backlash. fingernail on the bed near the chuck,to determine the former, twirl the dials, to determine the latter.

    prob. better to search ytube "backlash lathe" to get more info on that.

    the other thing is the electrics, that is a black hole you should only consider diving into if the first two above are not too far gone.

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    No, nothing to check, just bring a trailer and GET IT. If it does not work out for you, you can sell it for 10x what you paid. Get it asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zap921 View Post
    Thanks guys,

    Stopping by again later this week to check into it further. Anything that I should really check out further for piece of mind purposes? No way to check it running in the garage it was left in.
    Get photos inside the arse-end. The control box above it and panel back of it looks more like a third-party "upgrade" to a then-current DC Drive than to a VFD.

    Pretty certain it has lost its original OEM "hollow state" modular drive already, but hope it still has the OEM DC motor. NEW ones are about twelve thousand bucks, not twelve hundred bucks.

    Presuming it still has the OEM DC motor, usually a 5 HP GE KinaMatic or a Louis-Allis, that fossil can be removed and a proper upgrade done that all fits inside the base casting and won't need the fridge-freezer cabinet at all. Well. one could perhaps shelve it for storing tooling?

    Much less work than a VFD conversion and still "native single phase", too. No "de-rating" or specialized 1-P input VFD, and no mechanical work at all for converting to a new AC motor.

    In other good news, it has its tailstock and all of its FRAGILE Cast-Iron covers. One or both are often broken or missing.

    One caveat for a "farm shop" is that is is SHORT. Only 20" between centers. You may need a steady rest just to do the average PTO drive shaft or a hand truck axle. Likewise, a pistolsmith might be comfortable with it, a long gun mavin, not so much.

    Costs have been more realistically around $3,000 and up than "a few hundred", but that's between you and the present owner's want of floorspace.

    Clearly, it no longer owes him a dime.

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    I agree with thermite, value for a 1968 machine in $3k to $4k range. I doubt it has its original drive. By arse end he means under the head stock, not tail stock. You'll need a 3/16 allen wrench to get the top end cover off. The lower cover will then lift right off. Post photos of whatever is there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by adh2000 View Post
    I agree with thermite, value for a 1968 machine in $3k to $4k range. I doubt it has its original drive. By arse end he means under the head stock,
    OK. OK.. the fat girl's Iron "cheeks", "heavy hams", or "Kardashian end" where the "booty" is, then.



    An ORIGINAL Modular might be restorable for $1,000 in parts, all-up or less. A pair of tubes, primarily, if-even.

    A seriously obsolete conversion would want either of a NEW VFD, same 3-P motor if already VFD'ed, or NEW DC Drive same DC motor if DC motor had been retained.

    Either of those eats a chunk out of the perceived value compared to unmolested OEM for the greater time and/or spend to sort it, as neither one are "by the book, as built" restorations.

    They are at least minor re-engineering, or re-re-engineering instead, even if well-covered "right here on PM" and easy enough, either race or tribe.

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    It's heavy and top heavy, get some pro help to move it and don't be a cheapskate.

    Once you've smashed it on it's face - it's too late to be careful




    For the animal who suggests parting out a complete lathe, no.

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    Thanks again!! I fixed the earlier post where the pics didn't come through. I'll be back again later this week and get into the cabinet for some pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zap921 View Post
    Thanks again!! I fixed the earlier post where the pics didn't come through. I'll be back again later this week and get into the cabinet for some pics.
    Your not listening!!!

    Go get your trailer and get it, post pictures when you have it home!
    This is not one of those deals you hesitate on!

    If I knew where the machine was, I would be in my truck now!

    Kevin

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsg View Post
    Your not listening!!!

    Go get your trailer and get it, post pictures when you have it home!
    This is not one of those deals you hesitate on!

    If I knew where the machine was, I would be in my truck now!

    Kevin
    I know it sounds to good to be true. I'm lining up a forklift and trailer for Saturday. Just like to know as much as I can about this machine.

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    Monarch still makes these, That is how good they are. New is $100K or so:
    Monarch EE Series | Monarch Lathes
    This is the holy grail of lathes.

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    I thought I did ok when I got mine for £500. That's a supreme quality machine for the price of a toolpost. I'd be there handing over cash right now even if I couldn't collect it until Saturday.


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