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- Joined
- Oct 3, 2002
- Location
- Phoenix, MD, USA
I have followed the trail of other members difficulties with their tube-type 10EE drives on this web site. Since I had the good fortune to find a fellow who solved my most vexing Monarch problems, I thought others in this web group would like to read the following:
I have owned two 10EE’s for about 20 years. They came from the old Hamilton watch factory in Lancaster, PA. The older one is powered by an MG set and has worked faithfully (with a few repairs from time to time) ever since but the later one, a 1957 tube type has never worked since I bought it.
At a Lotus car club party held at my house last year, it was my good fortune to meet an electrical engineer, Don Butler who used to do field work for Reliance Electric. After examining my car for a while we began to talk about my two old Monarchs and the problems I had with the tube-type drive system. It turned out that at Reliance and at another similar job for another company, Don designed and installed control systems for large DC motors in industrial situations. In further conversation he said he would enjoy helping me with the challenge of producing a drive system that would reproduce the same characteristics as the original Monarch tube-type 10EE drive.
After some head scratching and examination of available drive hardware on the market Don decided to keep the old tandem wind rheostat, the field supply relay, the braking resistors, one terminal block and one of the two vertical plates at the right end of the roll out drawer (to hang all the components on). The later motor was hooked up to the output from the older MG drive set for a quick test and appeared to be in good condition.
Don did some research on the internet and found a really small manufacturer of bare bones digital motor drive hardware and softwear very close to where we live. Then all we had to do was to design a circuit, supply the necessary new (and old) switches, relays, fuses, terminal blocks and lots of expertise and build the thing. I say that loosely. He did all the figuring, soldering, calculations and constructing. All I did was watch and fetch wrenches.
The results were seen last week when we fired it up. After two sessions debugging the system I am pleased to report that the results are nothing short of spectacular. The motor is controlled with nothing more than the original controls. It operates on 240v single phase power. It starts off at 30 rpm and accelerates smoothly and quietly up to the nameplate 4,000 rpm. I don’t know the test for maximum power but I turned off a few red hot coils of tool steel big enough to take off your head if you got too close. Seemed torquey enough to me.
I’ll be enjoying my newfound work horse and looking for any problems in the future that might crop up.. Are there any others that might like to find out more hows and whys of this conversion? If so, contact me or Don Butler directly. His email is [email protected].
Regards Bill Bonta email [email protected]
Ps: Can anyone out there tell me what’s involved to stop the oil leaking into the bottom of the start relay box behind the headstock? My old MG type 10EE was a total loss system as far as I can tell but is it unreasonable to expect that the newer one should be dry on the outside? The machine seems to otherwise to have very little use and is in excellent overall condition.
[This message has been edited by [email protected] (edited 04-29-2003).]
I have owned two 10EE’s for about 20 years. They came from the old Hamilton watch factory in Lancaster, PA. The older one is powered by an MG set and has worked faithfully (with a few repairs from time to time) ever since but the later one, a 1957 tube type has never worked since I bought it.
At a Lotus car club party held at my house last year, it was my good fortune to meet an electrical engineer, Don Butler who used to do field work for Reliance Electric. After examining my car for a while we began to talk about my two old Monarchs and the problems I had with the tube-type drive system. It turned out that at Reliance and at another similar job for another company, Don designed and installed control systems for large DC motors in industrial situations. In further conversation he said he would enjoy helping me with the challenge of producing a drive system that would reproduce the same characteristics as the original Monarch tube-type 10EE drive.
After some head scratching and examination of available drive hardware on the market Don decided to keep the old tandem wind rheostat, the field supply relay, the braking resistors, one terminal block and one of the two vertical plates at the right end of the roll out drawer (to hang all the components on). The later motor was hooked up to the output from the older MG drive set for a quick test and appeared to be in good condition.
Don did some research on the internet and found a really small manufacturer of bare bones digital motor drive hardware and softwear very close to where we live. Then all we had to do was to design a circuit, supply the necessary new (and old) switches, relays, fuses, terminal blocks and lots of expertise and build the thing. I say that loosely. He did all the figuring, soldering, calculations and constructing. All I did was watch and fetch wrenches.
The results were seen last week when we fired it up. After two sessions debugging the system I am pleased to report that the results are nothing short of spectacular. The motor is controlled with nothing more than the original controls. It operates on 240v single phase power. It starts off at 30 rpm and accelerates smoothly and quietly up to the nameplate 4,000 rpm. I don’t know the test for maximum power but I turned off a few red hot coils of tool steel big enough to take off your head if you got too close. Seemed torquey enough to me.
I’ll be enjoying my newfound work horse and looking for any problems in the future that might crop up.. Are there any others that might like to find out more hows and whys of this conversion? If so, contact me or Don Butler directly. His email is [email protected].
Regards Bill Bonta email [email protected]
Ps: Can anyone out there tell me what’s involved to stop the oil leaking into the bottom of the start relay box behind the headstock? My old MG type 10EE was a total loss system as far as I can tell but is it unreasonable to expect that the newer one should be dry on the outside? The machine seems to otherwise to have very little use and is in excellent overall condition.
[This message has been edited by [email protected] (edited 04-29-2003).]