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    Quote Originally Posted by peterh5322 View Post
    In this case, cost won out over flexibility, plus I have the additional flexibility of indexing every fifteen degrees, using FOUR faces with "I" holders, using two faces with "non-I" holders, and using two to four faces using a combination of "I" and slightly modified "non-I" holders.
    peterh5322,
    It sounds like you made a good deal but the indexing every 15 degrees has me scratching my head. I have in front of me an Aloris catalogue and all the holders appear to be listed numerically meaning a #1 is a turning holder, #7 is a parting holder, #19 in a knurling tool etc.. I feel the need to be educated if you don't mind elaborating some because unless I'm missing something a BX or BXA post doesn't index and the holders mount solid?
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    The BXA-I post has a machined area with slots every 15 degrees. The BXA-I base has matching tongues. The BXA-I base is also available with an "anti-rotation" feature.

    A BXA-I system has four operational faces, and may accept two BXA holders or four BXA-I holders. The difference is an obvious 45 degree chamfer taken out of the corners of the "-I" holders. Generic (Shars, CDCO, etcetera) BXA holders may be machined to be similarly dimensioned as Aloris "-I" holders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterh5322 View Post
    With the new XL-style turn-face tool holders, larger tool capacity is available without having to upgrade from an AXA to a BXA.
    I have an AXA on my 1020F Rivett. The 1020F has a 13-1/2" swing, and I believe the AXA came on the lathe from the factory, as the advertising noted Aloris tool posts on the lathes.

    I also like the smaller size as it is easier to get into tight places, but AXA and BXA are pretty close in size. I will say that it is at the bottom of the adjustment screw, depending on the size of the tool being used. I also have some XL holders I got on ebay, and replaced the screws on. The larger the HSS blank, the less problems adjusting the tool bit on center, so the XL tool holders are handy. The only time I run into problem is when I try to use a 1/4" bit in an AXA holder. This is not really a problem as I don't use 1/4" tool bits on the 1020F. I do occasionally use 1/4" tool bits on my South Bend 9A, and it also has an AXA. Nice to be able to exchange holders when I want to.

    The XL holders I have are labeled "Hess". Coincidence??? I think not...LOL

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    "The XL holders I have are labeled "Hess". Coincidence?"

    LOL, indeed.

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    I have a BXA set up as well, the AXA is perhaps nice for tight spots but, in general the BXA has more pluses. The AXA seems more at home on 10~11" swing lathes. I have a number of 1" tool holders that are cut down for use in BXA holders. They wouldn't work so well in AXA holders without much more trimming. I have two bigger lathes that use CA tooling, it is nice to have a number of common inserts, shims, screws, ETC.

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterh5322 View Post
    "The XL holders I have are labeled "Hess". Coincidence?"

    LOL, indeed.

    Peter,

    Just so you don't think I was pulling your leg...

    I replaced all the dog point set screws with new 8mm x 1.25, 20mm long.

    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails hess-holders.jpg  

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    "Just so you don't think I was pulling your leg..."

    I have a very thick skin, as most in this forum can attest.

    The availability of "XL" holders was unknown to me until some weeks ago.

    Prior to that, I had been making in-house modifications to non-"XL" holders, on an ad-hoc basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beckley23 View Post
    I adapted a Royal 5-C handlever collet closer, and made the nosepiece. You can see it in the thread "Bells and Whistles".
    Harry
    Harry,

    I will go and look for the Bells and Whistles, working my way through older posts. I am very interested in your collet closer adaptation. I had one that I adapted to a pre-WWII Rivett 1020 that I loved. Still have it, but it got tipped on its front and needs work. I now have a 10EE with a Jacobs rubberflex 5C collet chuck, but don't like it. I have a 5C nosepiece. Your post was from 10 years ago. I'd like more information, so I'm hoping you are still active and willing to assist.

    Thanks,

    Rick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Kruger View Post
    Harry,

    I will go and look for the Bells and Whistles, working my way through older posts.... <SNIP> ...hoping you are still active and willing to assist. Thanks,

    Rick

    Unfortunately Harry (beckley23) passed away several years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Kruger View Post
    I will go and look for the Bells and Whistles, working my way through older posts. I am very interested in your collet closer adaptation. I had one that I adapted to a pre-WWII Rivett 1020 that I loved. Still have it, but it got tipped on its front and needs work. I now have a 10EE with a Jacobs rubberflex 5C collet chuck, but don't like it. I have a 5C nosepiece. Your post was from 10 years ago. I'd like more information, so I'm hoping you are still active and willing to assist.
    What sort of help are you looking for? I've made 5C fixtures for my 10EE and could pass along info if I knew what was desired. Maybe start a new thread with a particular question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rke[pler View Post
    What sort of help are you looking for? I've made 5C fixtures for my 10EE and could pass along info if I knew what was desired. Maybe start a new thread with a particular question?
    I’m traveling. Can’t fully respond. Will start a new thread in a couple days once I’m home.

    Rick


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