D1-4 on 10EE

I am looking to buy a second 10EE...

Mine has D1-3 spindle nose. Is this a typo below? Or did they make a Monarch with D1-4?

Karl



Equipped With:

Taper Attachment, Cushman 6" 3-Jaw Chuck, 8-1/4" 3-Jaw Chuck, Collet Closing Nose & Draw Tube,
Description:

Tool Post, Pneumatic Collet Closer and Installed Chuck NOT Included
Electrics:

3-Phase
Manufacturer: Monarch Model: 10 EE Tool Room Lathe Year: 1950 Serial Number: 33144
Main Unit Approx Weight: 3450.00 lbs
Main Unit Dimensions (in inches): Length: 70.00" Width: 32.00" Height: 56.00"
Specs:
Max Sing Over Bed: 12.5
Max Center Distance: 20"
Spindle Speeds: Variable Speed to 2,500 RPM
Max Swing Over Cross-Slide: 7"
Bar Capacity: 1-1/16"
Spindle Nose: D1-4 Camlock
Tailsock Quill Taper: #2MT

From a C?L seller? there clueless.... all 10ee,s (over 50) I had were d1-3...Phil

They're all D1-3. Another error is the capacity through the spindle, which is 1-3/8". The 1-1/16" might be the capacity with the collet closer draw tube.

Cal

I expect that's a typo or just a mistake (Hey Roy what's the spindle nose on that 10EE we're trying to sell? I dunno. D1-4?)

On the other hand I wouldn't die of surprise if someone with really deep pockets, e.g. US government, might have paid Monarch to build one with the larger spindle nose. No idea if that would be possible. I did check on my 10EE, the D1-4" spindle nose would NOT overlap the bolt hole circle on that cast piece behind the spindle nose. I'll be interested to hear if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

By the way according to the ANSI standard "B5.9 Spindle Noses for Tool Room Lathes, Turret Lathes, and Automatic Lathes" the recommended spindle nose size for a tool room lathe with a "catalog size" of 10" and an actual swing of 12 1/2" is D1-4", not D1-3", with the L0 long taper as an alternative.

And two replies between when I started and finished typing.

David

old_dave said:

I expect that's a typo or just a mistake (Hey Roy what's the spindle nose on that 10EE we're trying to sell? I dunno. D1-4?)On the other hand I wouldn't die of surprise if someone with really deep pockets, e.g. US government, might have paid Monarch to build one with the larger spindle nose. No idea if that would be possible. I did check on my 10EE, the D1-4" spindle nose would NOT overlap the bolt hole circle on that cast piece behind the spindle nose. I'll be interested to hear if anyone has ever seen such a thing.By the way according to the ANSI standard "B5.9 Spindle Noses for Tool Room Lathes, Turret Lathes, and Automatic Lathes" the recommended spindle nose size for a tool room lathe with a "catalog size" of 10" and an actual swing of 12 1/2" is D1-4", not D1-3", with the L0 long taper as an alternative.And two replies between when I started and finished typing.David

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Dave

I type so slow the day often changes between start and end of post. It looks like you did some research.

Typing specs should be done by someone who knows their stuff. Amazon made a typo on a gear that cost me a minimum of 6 hours of search time to verify. I reported it to them and they said they would correct it. Three weeks passed and still no correction. They dont really care.

Well, I now have a second 10EE. Got it for $2850 plus 18% premium
Machines Used | Monarch 10EE Toolroom Lathe with Taper Attachment and Chucks

Actually the third one I bought. Got a different second a few years back. It had serious issues so I sent that one on down the road.

Also got my covid shot today. So a great day all in all.

I was watching that auction as well. Looked to be a good machine. A bit too far away for me to retrieve at those prices.

dinotom said:

I was watching that auction as well. Looked to be a good machine. A bit too far away for me to retrieve at those prices.

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It will soon be close to you. I am a sno-bird and am setting up a winter shop in Marathon. After running a 10EE for thirty years, just can not stand the idea of running something less. (my son lives ten miles from the auction)

Karl_T said:

Well, I now have a second 10EE. Got it for $2850 plus 18% premium
Machines Used | Monarch 10EE Toolroom Lathe with Taper Attachment and Chucks

Actually the third one I bought. Got a different second a few years back. It had serious issues so I sent that one on down the road.

Also got my covid shot today. So a great day all in all.

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Looks like the bed was reground, maybe the whole lathe was gone through.....looks to be in good shape?

Kevin

Well, its an auction - was not able to run it. Looks good, but always a pig'n'poke when buying this way.

I have got screwed a couple times buying at auction. But the same thing has happened buying from a jockey. So I just takes my chances. Most of the time it works out. I do not expect a perfect machine when its 70 years old.

A beat to shite EE is better than almost any new Asian lathe by a country mile.

Karl

I think it has that optional cross feed dial, "accumulator" type, is that the right term? I think it makes it easy to keep track of multiple full revolutions of the cross feed. Also I see a step chuck closer on the floor. Looks clean and not by virtue of a covers-all-sins new coat of paint.

David