Did the Russians have their version off the 10ee???

Brett by Portland · Feb 24, 2011

It is pretty much agreed that the 10ee played a huge part in the U.S. nuclear weapons program from WW2 on through the Cold War. I have never seen nor heard whether the Russians had a similarly capable machine? Anyone know if they did? Or did the "smuggle" 10ee's in somehow? images?
Brett

desti · Feb 24, 2011

We, Russian, used your 10ee for this purpose.
Your government delivered them to Russia, at each munitions factory they were.

My 10ee - Monarch 10EE
Other 10ee - Other Monarch 10EE in Russia

Ries · Feb 24, 2011

During WW2, the USA sent the Soviet Union approximately $12.5 Billion dollars worth of tools, vehicles, armaments, planes, and more.
Undoubtedly 10EE's were included in this.
And probably a fair amount of other machine tools.

old_dave · Feb 24, 2011

desti said:
We, Russian, used your 10ee for this purpose.
Your government delivered them to Russia, at each munitions factory they were.

My 10ee - Monarch 10EE
Other 10ee - Other Monarch 10EE in Russia

Very interesting desti, thank you. Of course when these round dials were exported to the old Soviet Union, that country and the U.S. were allies. I wonder if subsequently the 10EE was one of the machine tools that could not be exported to the USSR under the rules of CoCom (Coordinating Committee for Multilateral Export Controls).
David Lindquist

desti · Feb 24, 2011

Ries said:
$12.5 Billion dollars

Machine tools and the equipment - $1 078 965 000

Only round dials in Russia (1942-1943), аfter the termination "land lease" programm, other American equipment didn't arrive to Russua, but we have bought machine tools through the "third world" countries.

daryl bane · Feb 24, 2011

Jeez, Brett how do you like that answer right from the source? :eek:

I am never ceased to be amazed at the internet? I know that the Russian's made machine tools and I can assume they were solid, rugged machines. I always wondered why they never capitalized on the export manual market, with a higher quality than Chinese machines.

220swift · Feb 24, 2011

Desti

Did your EE come with the 2 compounds as shown or is the one with the coumpound with
2 slots from another machine ?

Hal

desti · Feb 24, 2011

daryl bane said:
I know that the Russian's made machine tools and I can assume they were solid, rugged machines.

Serious working out of russian machine tools has begun after 1960 (it was simplified "clone" of Deckel, Schaublin, Lorch, etc), before we was used "land lease" import equipment and the equipment which have taken out from Germany after the WW2.

daryl bane - We exported our machine tools, but basically, to the socialist countries.

220swift - one original compound, second compound - clone of schaublin-102, i plan to put it instead of original, it completely approaches in the sizes, but more rigid.

daryl bane · Feb 24, 2011

Thank You desti for your comments. I had thought that when the Berlin wall came down and things in Russia eased up, that there might be a flood of competitively priced Russian machine tools, etc. being marketed in the US, but it never happened. I know I would have been a customer. Just those heavy duty wind up Submarine clocks, which I have and it still runs great.

desti · Feb 24, 2011

Unfortunately, it doesn't happen, but I agree that the chance was.

pistonskirt · Feb 24, 2011

John Stevenson had a possible candidate, sadly it perished, but John has a CVA with which to compare so perhaps two thirds bed length ultimately sealed it's fate :rolleyes5:

regards

Brian

PS/
Quote from John after weighing it in at the scrap yard

"Total weight was 1641 kg and this was minus chucks, backplates, taper turning and tailstock"

desti · Feb 24, 2011

HS1020 - it russian IZH 250 ITP (old export version)

Really best russian toolroom lathe.

IZHMASH JSC official site

rke[pler · Feb 24, 2011

Anyone know why neither the google or yahoo bablefish translators work on those Russian pages? I'd like to follow the commentary.

desti · Feb 25, 2011

Russian spoken language is untranslatable by google and other automatic translators, they work only with "journalese" style.

HelicalCut · Feb 25, 2011

rke[pler said:
Anyone know why neither the google or yahoo bablefish translators work on those Russian pages? I'd like to follow the commentary.

They work for me google does an OK translation if you are used to the output from translators, I can understand most of the intended message, read between the lines instead of literally. Interestingly they made motorcycles guns and cars as well as machines.

bob · Feb 25, 2011

Russian machine tools were imported here by Stanko in the 70's and 80's,mostly heavy duty lathes and horizontal mills. There is a big lathe at the local pipe mill, I have never seen it but guys that worked there say it was a very impressive machine power feed to compound and rapids on all axis.
Bob

desti · Feb 25, 2011

Use PROMT - Free Online Translator
It is the russian soft and it translates better, than google

desti · Feb 25, 2011

Stanko - it аmerican reduction of name "StankoImport", the main importer and exporter of machine tools and equipment of the Soviet union. Actually such organisation (Stanko) never was.

rke[pler · Feb 25, 2011

desti said:
Use PROMT - Free Online Translator
It is the russian soft and it translates better, than google

It looks like the server blocks the google and yahoo translators, they both get 404 errors when the server refuses to serve up the page. Odd that Promit is allowed to proxy load the page, but thanks for the link as I can now read the pages.

And it is full of slang that can't be translated, but I can get the gist of it easily enough. I used to do software training in Europe ("It's Tuesday so this must be Warsaw!") and am accustomed to understanding a fraction of the conversation. But I did like the translation of the feed/speed dial - "killed tablet of giving". Computers have such a sense of humor.

restore49 · Feb 25, 2011

The bed grinding sled design is interesting reading. Bob

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