New to the Monarch family. 10ee

zamboni2354 · Oct 1, 2021

Hey guys,

I don't post too often but have learned a lot lurking. I've wanted a smaller lathe to compliment my larger lathe in my home shop. I have a whacheon 17x40. I wanted either a HLVH or a 10ee. I ended up getting a HLVH English metric clone several months ago. It's pretty nice but I still kept an eye out for a real HLVH or 10ee.

I'm on Instagram under the name @anotherhomeshopguy and a guy that follows me sent me a message that he saw 2 at a scrap yard and asked if I was interested. I was. He picked them up for me and I just got them yesterday.

Here's pics: pretty rough, been sitting outside for months but I figured with one being an English metric with taper attachment it was worth the risk and worst case scenario I could part out and get my money back.

The English metric was made in 1988. Looks like the original solid state drive. I got the order sheet from monarch and it was order at 460v. So I'll have to see if that can be easily changed to 230. I've read that these require true 3 phase but that a phase perfect converter will work. I have a phase perfect.

I don't see the knob for changing the speeds.

The 2nd machine has more rust and is missing the tailstock. It was rebuilt in 91 and has been converted to a DC solid state drive with a pacemaster 2.

I'm hoping most of the 1988 machine is OK and will use the 2nd for parts. The large handwheel for moving the carriage on both machines is broken so I'll need one of those at some point.

Anyway, looks like I have a lot of work ahead of me!!

Jeff

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m-lud · Oct 1, 2021

zamboni2354 said:
Hey guys,

I don't post too often but have learned a lot lurking. I've wanted a smaller lathe to compliment my larger lathe in my home shop. I have a whacheon 17x40. I wanted either a HLVH or a 10ee. I ended up getting a HLVH English metric clone several months ago. It's pretty nice but I still kept an eye out for a real HLVH or 10ee.

I'm on Instagram under the name @anotherhomeshopguy and a guy that follows me sent me a message that he saw 2 at a scrap yard and asked if I was interested. I was. He picked them up for me and I just got them yesterday.

Here's pics: pretty rough, been sitting outside for months but I figured with one being an English metric with taper attachment it was worth the risk and worst case scenario I could part out and get my money back.

The English metric was made in 1988. Looks like the original solid state drive. I got the order sheet from monarch and it was order at 460v. So I'll have to see if that can be easily changed to 230. I've read that these require true 3 phase but that a phase perfect converter will work. I have a phase perfect.

I don't see the knob for changing the speeds.

The 2nd machine has more rust and is missing the tailstock. It was rebuilt in 91 and has been converted to a DC solid state drive with a pacemaster 2.

I'm hoping most of the 1988 machine is OK and will use the 2nd for parts. The large handwheel for moving the carriage on both machines is broken so I'll need one of those at some point.

Anyway, looks like I have a lot of work ahead of me!!

Jeff

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A razor blade held at the right angle shaves the bulk of rust like that off. Good luck with your lathe's

zamboni2354 · Oct 1, 2021

mllud22 said:
A razor blade held at the right angle shaves the bulk of rust like that off. Good luck with your lathe's

Yep, I know the method well lol [emoji38] thanks!

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Don's Engine · Oct 1, 2021

I found it amazing how well these come back to life. An old SB in that shape really would be scrap. Nice find!! Don

gustafson · Oct 1, 2021

HOw can someone leave an I/M outside

sigh

welcome to the EE family

zamboni2354 · Oct 2, 2021

gustafson said:
HOw can someone leave an I/M outside

sigh

welcome to the EE family

Good Ole military with unlimited funds I suppose. Lol. Thanks.

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m-lud · Oct 2, 2021

zamboni2354 said:
Good Ole military with unlimited funds I suppose. Lol. Thanks.

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They aren't wasting their money and really don't have any appreciation for a precision machine.

Zamboni
It really doesn't effect running the lathe but did they come with the end covers?

Don's Engine
I have cleaned up both South Bends and Monarch's . The Monarch's don't seem too rust pits as easy if left outside. It has too be the difference in the cast/steel mix.

Those two lathes should clean up nice. At least someone seen some value before they hit the melting pot. Scrappers know what to set aside and give a second chance.

zamboni2354 · Oct 2, 2021

Zamboni
It really doesn't effect running the lathe but did they come with the end covers?

Yes, I got the covers as well.
Jeff

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TheOldCar · Oct 2, 2021

I only skim read and didn't realize you got two! Looks like the I/M from 1988 is NOT the rebuilt one, also! NICE.

zamboni2354 · Oct 2, 2021

TheOldCar said:
I only skim read and didn't realize you got two! Looks like the I/M from 1988 is NOT the rebuilt one, also! NICE.

Yeah, two of them. I didn't want to overload my initial post with too many pics. The one missing the tailstock was made in 59-61 then rebuilt in 91. Ways aren't that great and missing the tailstock but plenty of good parts if I need any for the I/m machine. Here's some more pic's of the 2nd one and it's electricals:

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zamboni2354 · Oct 2, 2021

TheOldCar said:
I only skim read and didn't realize you got two! Looks like the I/M from 1988 is NOT the rebuilt one, also! NICE.

Here are more of the regenerative drive and other pics of the I/m machine. I ordered the manualfrom monarch. Hopefullythere'sa wiring schematic:

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bob · Oct 2, 2021

I run my IM on a Phase Perfect no problem. But you have to get the phase rotation right or it wont go. There should be sticker in the cabinets .
Bob

zamboni2354 · Oct 2, 2021

bob said:
I run my IM on a Phase Perfect no problem. But you have to get the phase rotation right or it wont go. There should be sticker in the cabinets .
Bob

Good to know Bob! I have a 10hp phase perfect. No sticker in the cabinet. Hopefully the manual has more info on the electronics. I want to clean all the dust and dirt off the electronics and try to confirm it's all wired correctly before trying it. The order sheet shows it was ordered 460v. I need to confirm it hasn't been messed with and then figure out how hard to convert to 230v.

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bob · Oct 2, 2021

If I slam it into stop running at 4000 (never need that speed) it will fault out. I think this more because of marginal wiring in the shop rather than a problem with the drive, at lower speed it never happens. Cant help with the 460 volt but a small transformer might be the easiest solution
Bob

Maxim · Oct 2, 2021

I also have a Defense Logistics Agency rebuilt 10ee, done about the same time. Mine had the ways reground, you can tell by the turcite under the carriage.
The one I have had a new DC drive installed but its different then yours.

I hope your 10EE comes out great and gives you many more decades of service

bob · Oct 3, 2021

picture of the label I mentioned. Also note missing fuses. Sure hope this is not a sign that someone was trying to "fix" it
Bob

zamboni2354 · Oct 3, 2021

bob said:
picture of the label I mentioned. Also note missing fuses. Sure hope this is not a sign that someone was trying to "fix" it
Bob

Bob,
Yes, I have that sticker too! Thanks for the pic of the fuses, just ordered them. I thought the same thing. Hopefully it turns out ok.

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Mebfab · Oct 3, 2021

gustafson said:
HOw can someone leave an I/M outside

Better question, I bet they left it out, sent it for rebuild, and left it out again. So who leaves a series 10 out 2x.

zamboni2354 · Oct 3, 2021

Mebfab said:
Better question, I bet they left it out, sent it for rebuild, and left it out again. So who leaves a series 10 out 2x.

There are 2 lathes probably only left outside once it got to the scrap yard

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zamboni2354 · Oct 4, 2021

bob said:
picture of the label I mentioned. Also note missing fuses. Sure hope this is not a sign that someone was trying to "fix" it
Bob

Bob,

I'm missing the knob for controlling the speed. If it's not too much trouble could you send a pic inside the left side cover showing what they used? Is it just a pot?
Thanks
Jeff

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