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    Default Graziano Sag 12 Manual

    Hi,

    Does anyone have an electronic version of a Graziano SAG 12 Manual. I also need a schematic for this machine. It is a two speed version.

    Thanks,
    Vonschmitzer

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    I can send you a schematic for the two speed version if you send me your email address I can attach it ,but the manual itself for some reason is too large a file to send (120 meg)?

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    I have a PDF of the entire manual which I sell for $50. send me a private message and I will arrange a link to it for you.

    Charles.

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    Charles .... Does the PDF manual include the
    electrical schematics ? Thats all I really need,
    but the manual would probably come in handy
    too ...

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    Metal Mage,

    My manual is a scan of the complete unblemished original manual and includes the "Diagram of Electrical Equipment Siemens Type" which is the complete electrical description and wiring diagram.

    Charles.

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    Do you take Paypal ?

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    Yes I do, you can send me a payment at [email protected] on paypal.

    Charles.

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    Done ... Thanks ! Looks like this lathe uses an electronically
    controlled gearcase ? Anyone know what kind of oil is supposed
    to be used in the gearcases ?

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    Metal Madge,

    Thanks for that. My son who sets up the links etc. for me is in Toronto today. He may be back early enough to send the pdf. out today, but if not it will be with you tomorrow. ( The oil specifications are in the manual. )

    Charles.

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    Here is an older thread which includes a single speed motor SAG 12 schematic:

    http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...d.php?t=130579

    Usually these things turn up when you do a search on this forum, in this case "Graziano schematic" or "Graziano manual" etc.

    Actually, it would be good to see the two-speed schematic posted here too, anyone want to post it (or send me the image, I can post it). [email protected]

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    I sent you the 2 speed schematic Peter ,you are welcome to post it here if you can Thanks Jim

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    Jim and Tom,

    Thanks for sending me the two-speed schematics. I don't think I can post a PDF, so will print and scan, then post - but it will take a few days as I have no printer or scanner at present

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    I have a printer and scanner if someone can send me the PDF ...

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    Tom has kindly sent me some images I can post via Photobucket.

    Here is the SAG 12 schematic with two-speed motor (but I don't think it shows the brake, correct me if I am wrong).



    The translation for the index:



    And a couple of other schematics I think Tom made. I am not exactly sure how or if they differ from the Graziano drawing above.

    Two-speed motor controls without brake:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/10...-speed7149.jpg

    Two-speed motor controls with brake:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/10...-speed7150.jpg

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    Default Graziano Sag 12 Manual

    I finally located the original copies used to make the drawings linked above. Both drawings came from badly stained and poor copies of blueprints inserted in the original manual for a Sag 12 with two-speed motor and brake. These are Graziano sheets 7149 and 7150, both dating from 1973. Both sheets refer to a two-speed motor and joystick with brake. The titles are corrected below.

    Two-speed motor controls with brake:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/10...-speed7149.jpg

    Two-speed motor controls with brake:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/10...-speed7150.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by troll View Post
    I finally located the original copies used to make the drawings linked above. Both drawings came from badly stained and poor copies of blueprints inserted in the original manual for a Sag 12 with two-speed motor and brake. These are Graziano sheets 7149 and 7150, both dating from 1973. Both sheets refer to a two-speed motor and joystick with brake. The titles are corrected below.

    Two-speed motor controls with brake:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/10...-speed7149.jpg

    Two-speed motor controls with brake:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/10...-speed7150.jpg
    The links in Troll's post don't work, but they refer to the same two drawings in my last post above. The problem was I described them incorrectly, but Trolls post corrects that error.

    Here are the links again:

    Two-speed motor controls with brake:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/10...-speed7149.jpg


    Two-speed motor controls with brake:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/10...-speed7150.jpg

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    Hi Jim
    Is the discussion on this lathe about a SAG 12 CNC Graziano or the SAG12 manual machine?

    I have a CNC SAG12 w a GE MARK1050 Control (no CRT) made circa 1980
    but in great shape wear-wise.

    I finally repaired the mechanical, hydraulic and Electronic problems
    But I don't know how to program it.

    Does anyone have any info on this??

    Thanks
    AL

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    Think it is just manual,never heard of a CNC Sag so good luck, Jim

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    AL,

    I haven't heard of a CNC Sag 12 before, any chance of a photo? Always interested to see a different Graziano. If you aren't familiar with posting photos, you are welcome to e-mail me a photo and I can post it. My e-mail is [email protected]

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    There is a fellow in Anaconda, MT who has a Sag 12 that's been converted to a sort of CNC. At one point, Summit Eng was in Bozeman, MT or had a local connection. The Sag 12 in question apparently had both transmission and motor problems. Both were jerked, the motor was replaced by a large outboard unit, and an early Summit numerical control installed. I've seen this lathe, but I really don't understand the extent to which it is CNC'd. It's a strange looking contraption. I'm guessing that any Sag 12's of the vintage mentioned have been modified by a non-Graziano associated shop.


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