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    No, actually, to do that I loosen the retainer "plates" on either side of the compound riser block. thats the four socket head caps crews that you see just below the slot in the photo (actually to the left of the slot, the pic is sideways).

    the slot has nothing to do with adjusting the compound, so what does go in there? I was thinking it’s a good spot for the DRO scale, but don’t want to block it if there is some other useful function to it. Thanks for info in advance, cheers!
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    A long time ago, I'm pretty sure there was some mention of the slot on here....must have been pretty inconsequential....and never seen anything sitting in it, with the various grazianos in use or being sold over here.

    I'd make sure I have a good tailstock stop, when you install the dro, if using glass scales though.

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    Perhaps it was intended as a coolant drain channel.

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    If it was just a coolant drain channel I seriously doubt it would have the dovetail. Something went in there. Sure someone knows, Cross slide stop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyanidekid View Post
    I put a 18" piece of 1" shafting in the chuck, indicator right by the chuck, and pushed/pulled on the end of it with 50 lbs or so of force. chuck seems tight on the spindle, doubt I'm bending the rod much.
    It might simply be the chuck jaws are bell mouthed, so allowing the shaft to bend and move.

    I doubt the chuck is loose or the spindle needs any attention. In fact I would strongly advise leaving the spindle bearings alone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyanidekid View Post
    If it was just a coolant drain channel I seriously doubt it would have the dovetail. Something went in there. Sure someone knows, Cross slide stop?
    Could be. The long/cross feed lever is spring loaded to pop out of engagement when a certain resistance is felt.

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    Here are the change gears supplied with a Sag 14, according to the factory list of accessories:

    20, 26, 29, 30, 31, 45, 47, 52, 58, 60, 64.

    Not including the gears fitted to lathe: 20, 40, 80.

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    Dropped the apron last night, it's about as good as you could expect in there.
    a bit rough on the outside, but nice inside

    img_9660.jpg img_9661.jpg

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    Looks nice and clean!


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    yes, clean inside, but here is the reason I dropped it,

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyanidekid View Post
    What goes in the dovetail slot on the right side of the saddle?
    I have the same slot on my SAG 12; never figured out what it's for. Follow Rest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyanidekid View Post
    Visited somebody to help them with getting their SAG to work, after he took it apart and didn't put it back together 100%.
    After I fixed his problem the lathe was working good. He told me that removing the gear box was a mistake. He had a hell of
    a time to install it correctly, lining up gears. He said that when the tray is being pushed back in you can't see what you
    are trying to line up. So there are a lot of trial and error sessions.

    I really like those machines. So did this guy. He had three others in parts that he was going to build and keep or sell.
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    A little off topic but......we had a SAG 14 for several years. Came out of a shop in Ontario and had severe wear
    on the first 18" or so of the bed. After some serious discussion with the seller (a dealer) we agreed to split the
    cost of having the bed ground. Cost us about $2500 (half of the total) in the late 80s but it was worth every penny.
    You could make an 18" pass on a part and not see anything more than tenths of runout. We down-sized in '98 and
    sold the lathe which was one of the dumbest things we've ever done.

    But I have a question about change gears. In all the years we had the lathe I don't remember having to change any
    gears when cutting threads--I know we didn't have any spare gears with the machine. Were the change gears only
    for module or diametrical threads? Or perhaps metric? I know we didn't cut many of those back in the 80s...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 310 Guy View Post
    I have the same slot on my SAG 12; never figured out what it's for. Follow Rest?
    Travelling steady will bolt to the front of the saddle.

    Quote Originally Posted by rons
    He had a hell of
    a time to install it correctly, lining up gears. He said that when the tray is being pushed back in you can't see what you
    are trying to line up.
    It's a fun game! Repressed memory but I think I used contact cement on the selector forks to hold things in place....along with careful measurement of gear position. Front cover is bloody heavy, expect a 17 isn't much different, a hydraulic table - and level floor - for positioning will no doubt come in handy if the need arises.

    Quote Originally Posted by LKeithR
    In all the years we had the lathe I don't remember having to change any
    gears when cutting threads--I know we didn't have any spare gears with the machine.
    Can't remember the last time I cut a thread on a manual! At least for most common threads, standard gears and the feed gearbox should deliver what you need.

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    I'm pretty sure the follow rest goes on the left side of the saddle, there are two slots milled in it there. the dovetail on the right side is too tiny for a traveling steady. there is a spot on the cross slide for something that looks like it would interact with a stop in the dovetail, so I'm convinced its for a cross slide stop

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    as to the change gears, yup, you need them for modular and diametrical, and for threads not on the standard chart, like 48 or M .45

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    Maybe the slot is for a milling attachment?

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    got into the apron and the screw and rods have some clean parts to reassemble!

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    I’ve been remiss in posting progress on this, but it is back together, I’ve been busy with other work, still meet to run a 30a line for it, but it’s looking better!
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