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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist View Post
    You kidding? Try renting a flat in Switzerland. Then turning it over "Swiss clean" when you leave.
    Thermie you always entertain me and sometimes surprise me. Indeed it's easier (but not easy) to rent a flat here than it is to give it back. Think white-gloved drill sargent x100.

    As to the lathe, now the pics come and it's really a basket case. But as said before probably worth more in parts and that money can buy a good CNC needing some love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwmachine View Post
    As to the lathe, now the pics come and it's really a basket case. But as said before probably worth more in parts and that money can buy a good CNC needing some love.
    Worth 'something' as parts. Or as-had for the lot to a better-funded risk-taker.

    Fire does seem highly probable.

    Rather more than less if not further compromised, though.

    And I'd say 'money TOWARD' purchase of a CNC-something if THAT worthy is to actually be any good AND NOT just a different flavour of tinned worms..

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    After first aid

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    Quote Originally Posted by jCandlish View Post
    If you had the manual and drawings why did you do it?

    Digging into the spindle is an astoundingly silly thing to do just to satisfy your curiosity.
    Watch these pictures where you can see clearly the old hammer blows.

    These and other signs are the reasons why I decided to risk it and remove the cap of the spindle, to understand to what extent has been tampered with.

    Now do you understand my decision?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grazio87 View Post
    After first aid
    The chuck and other parts cleaned up good.

    Don't be too down hearted. I once had a fire and ended up with a shop full of machines that looked like your lathe. I sold them off, and then went bust.

    Anyway, the thing to remember if you choose to work through this, is don't force anything. If you find yourself reaching for a pry-bar, take a break. Pause. You shouldn't need to apply destructive force anywhere.

    You will need a well equipped shop for the challenge ahead, and lots and lots of time and patience. Plus a Z-axis ballscrew that will cost several thousand francs.

    It really sucks I'm sure, but seeing the pictures I'm more certain than ever that you should just sell it as is and move on.

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    now I saw that the Chuck has not been tampered with, I encouraged and I decided that it is worth more attention, because maybe I can still do something good with this lathe.
    It's much appreciated help to operate at its best with minimal tools I own.

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    in this picture you see the ball screw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grazio87 View Post
    encouraged and I decided that it is worth more attention, because maybe I can still do something good with this lathe.
    If nothing else, you can LEARN.

    A lot.

    Along the way that 'well equipped shop' mentioned is a general-purpose goal. You should at least gradually acquire more and better hand tools, clamping, lifting, positioning, layout tools and metrology gear.

    I can remember a time where I could afford but ONE new S-K socket per payday for a growing wrench collection that has now passed the 65 year mark still in reliable service.

    Getting by with 'minimal tools' is commendable, but not necessarily smart.

    Prioritize growing out of that limitation, and never give up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grazio87 View Post
    in this picture you see the ball screw
    Fires are problematic. The soot and heat damage electric motors, not instantly, buy lead to their premature failure. And the water sprayed to extinguish the fire turns to steam and then condenses everywhere, rusting everything. That ball screw is missing its guarding. Don't run the nut on it. Loosen the screw from the apron and remove the apron, then the carriage. They are heavy. Don't bend the screw.

    Really though, you could sink thousands of Euros and hundreds of hours into this and end up with shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist View Post
    If nothing else, you can LEARN.

    A lot.

    Along the way that 'well equipped shop' mentioned is a general-purpose goal. You should at least gradually acquire more and better hand tools, clamping, lifting, positioning, layout tools and metrology gear.

    I can remember a time where I could afford but ONE new S-K socket per payday for a growing wrench collection that has now passed the 65 year mark still in reliable service.

    Getting by with 'minimal tools' is commendable, but not necessarily smart.

    Prioritize growing out of that limitation, and never give up.

    Bill
    Thank you, your comment is much appreciated.
    I recently found the place I want to create my atelier, at the same time, however, I lost my job, and then I find myself only with things that slowly I have purchased over the years.

    as metrology, mitutoyo micrometer, dial indicator that you see on the first page, and a set of precision squares

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    Quote Originally Posted by jCandlish View Post
    Fires are problematic. The soot and heat damage electric motors, not instantly, buy lead to their premature failure. And the water sprayed to extinguish the fire turns to steam and then condenses everywhere, rusting everything. That ball screw is missing its guarding. Don't run the nut on it. Loosen the screw from the apron and remove the apron, then the carriage. They are heavy. Don't bend the screw.

    Really though, you could sink thousands of Euros and hundreds of hours into this and end up with shit.
    I agree with the speech of fire and condensation, indeed just possible I would test the main engine.

    For now I can't, because I still have no electricity in my current stock, which I want to turn in the laboratory.

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    clarification

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grazio87 View Post
    I still have no electricity in my current stock, which I want to turn in the laboratory.
    Where in Italy are you, anyway? There may be resources not so far away that could help move you up the ladder a rung or three, if only to reduce the pain.. being shared.


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    I'm in a rural province about 90 km north of Rome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grazio87 View Post
    I'm in a rural province about 90 km north of Rome
    Grain, wine, and oil country + tourists, IOW.

    You need to go waay further North and scout the near and deep suburbs and communes off of Milano, Torino, & c. if you want to find bits of worthwhile machinery to mess with.

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    I know this

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    purchases made after I bought the lathe:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grazio87 View Post
    I know this
    Yeah, but ain't it a BITCH trying to DO it, though.

    Metro DC base here. More 'go-fetch' runs to Cleveland, Dayton, Indianapolis, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Taxatwoshits, North Carolina, Michigan and even Pensacola, Florida clear down on the Gulf Coast than a few. And that is ONLY the go-fetch runs. Freight and such a whole 'nuther matter.

    But I eventually got what I wanted...

    PS: Got screwed on that chuck. Has either one jaw too many, or one jaw too few.




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    "PS: Got screwed on that chuck. Has either one jaw too many, or one jaw too few."

    I don't understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grazio87 View Post
    "PS: Got screwed on that chuck. Has either one jaw too many, or one jaw too few."

    I don't understand
    2-Jaw are righteous for their niche.

    4-Jaw are righteous, always.

    6-Jaw are righteous for tubing.

    3-Jaw cone, ramp, lever operated POWER critters can be OK as well.

    3-jaw scroll back, manual?

    B'long on welding tables. Too bulky for door stops, wrong shape for canoe anchors.



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