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    Default Spindel Nose Cazeneuve HB725

    I want to make some backplates for some chucks for a cazeneuve HB 725.

    Does someone know which dimension the taper nose is from a HB 725.
    I know you have different types, but it's not a camlock version.

    It's cazeneuve own system with three screws.

    I thought the taper was about 10 degrees, but i want to be sure.

    first i want to order them, but the price is towers high especially when you need 4 backplates.

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    Hi

    Take a look at this: Fabrication faux plateau pour Cazeneuve HBX360 | Usinages

    That dude made him self a tool to measure the size, he sets the top slide to 1.5°

    But its a HBX360. I dont know if the 725 has the same angle...

    Maybe it helps...

    Greets

    bear

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    Quote Originally Posted by bear_ View Post
    Hi

    Take a look at this: Fabrication faux plateau pour Cazeneuve HBX360 | Usinages

    That dude made him self a tool to measure the size, he sets the top slide to 1.5°

    But its a HBX360. I dont know if the 725 has the same angle...

    Maybe it helps...

    Greets

    bear
    Surely hope the poor OP hasn't gone empty-handed for twelve years...

    But I'm pleased to offer thanks for the link, bear. It was worthwhile brushing-up on my lousy French skills.

    Same source also has HB 500 & HB 575 info, but I saw nothing there for the larger HB 7XX tribe.

    I happen to have an HBX-360-BC ,though.

    The two new backplates just purchased were not cheap, no. But neither is my time!

    I think I can afford two more = six, total, counting the two that came with it with workholding already mounted.

    Not as if they didn't LAST a longish time, is it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post
    Surely hope the poor OP hasn't gone empty-handed for twelve years...
    obviously i did not look at the date... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by bear_ View Post
    obviously i did not look at the date... LOL
    No foul. The info helps SOMEBODY.

    And Cazeneuve refurb projects DO tend to run slowly!


    ...or maybe that's just ME?


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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post
    No foul. The info helps SOMEBODY.

    And Cazeneuve refurb projects DO tend to run slowly!


    ...or maybe that's just ME?

    the astonishing thing about Caz lathes, they never seem to rust, I,m 5 miles from the coast, stuff rusts but not my hb575, the 3 jaw(trois mors) shines as new although it is stuffed, you can buy a Chinese chuck, in a week there is surface rust, maybe the Caz has more nickel, Cu Mg, who knows, maybe will try a faceplate, but what from? in the meantime, I just use the 4 jaw to hold new chucks, but with only one good arm, I find clocking almost impossible, I cannot reach over it Ladner and Rohm do not answer my emails

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuarth44 View Post
    the astonishing thing about Caz lathes, they never seem to rust, I,m 5 miles from the coast, stuff rusts but not my hb575, the 3 jaw(trois mors) shines as new although it is stuffed, you can buy a Chinese chuck, in a week there is surface rust, maybe the Caz has more nickel, Cu Mg, who knows, maybe will try a faceplate, but what from? in the meantime, I just use the 4 jaw to hold new chucks, but with only one good arm, I find clocking almost impossible, I cannot reach over it Ladner and Rohm do not answer my emails
    Monarch 10EE the same. Nickel in the melt, almost certainly. But near-as-dammit nothing rusts in my workspace anyway.

    As to backplates?

    I NOW have two brand-new plates for my HBX-360-BC. And new seals for the variator. And new/spare conical-tipped affixing screws for the platens. And wiill be placing another order in the spring for some other stuff.

    From Cazeneuve.
    In France.

    Whether they themselves make under-roof or buy-in none of my concern. They fit perfectly.

    Cazeneuve seem to no longer have a US distributor, but who really knows, given their website is broken such that only AFRICA even lists what they DO have!



    Cazeneuve had not responded to my direct inquiries, EITHER.

    Thanks to a UK PM member's introduction, I now use a guy in the UK.
    Who is an authorized distributor.

    "Almost" painless as to the logistics. "Parcelforce" got them to me in Virginia quickly and cheaply enough, zero import hassle.

    Worth the modest cost premium.

    Well.... OK.... "modest" to my expectation of what things have to cost, anyway. Finance guy. Not a machinist!



    Cazeneuve respond to HIS inquiries, and quickly.

    Email me if you don't mind paying the prevailing rates. Not cheap. But reasonable. To a one-time Factory Manager. Later MD/Chairman.

    So perhaps not the average impoverished hobbyist. Penurious, even so. I DID always "make my numbers" after all!



    Bill

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    SRW Amestra selLs backplates for the caseneuvE If you google Amestra 456-129
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    OK, I'm really taken by the Cazeneuve lathes. Found one reasonably close in what appears good cond. Its a HB500. Unfortunately it has the Caz proprietary nose. Before buying it I'd like some idea what a new chuck back-plate might cost and are they really available??

    The specs on these lathes are amazing, I probably won't use it much but would really enjoy seeing it crouching in my shop.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by amoretti View Post
    OK, I'm really taken by the Cazeneuve lathes. Found one reasonably close in what appears good cond. Its a HB500. Unfortunately it has the Caz proprietary nose. Before buying it I'd like some idea what a new chuck back-plate might cost and are they really available??

    The specs on these lathes are amazing, I probably won't use it much but would really enjoy seeing it crouching in my shop.

    John
    Mine is the smaller HBX-360-BC.

    Yes, they are available, brand-new, ex Cazeneuve factory. Perfect fit, too.
    No, they were not cheap. That said, the prices were "reasonable" for what they are and how long they last. Ditto the prices for seals & such for the hydraulic vari-drive & c.

    I used an authorized distributor in the UK for my two.

    I plan to order two more some time in the new year, along with a new varidrive belt and some other odds and sods.

    PS: Just got your incoming email. Address on file with PM must be stale?

    My reply was rejected by your incoming Mail Server.
    Last edited by thermite; 12-13-2021 at 12:46 PM.


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