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    The only metrics that chart appears to use for...

    The only metrics that chart appears to use for ranking are minimum wage (and other worker protection) laws and union laws. Both good things to some extent, but hardly indicative of earning or buying...
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    EU healthcare varies by country. But you are...

    EU healthcare varies by country. But you are right.

    I agree that much of the EU enjoys a better quality of life for the working class. But that doesn't mean that their employers are paying them...
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    You're right, Japanese salaries are widely...

    You're right, Japanese salaries are widely available online. And everything I can find (though a bit dated) shows average compensation in Japan way below US averages.

    What Is the Average Salary...
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    The salaries listed on Glassdoor that are...

    The salaries listed on Glassdoor that are reported by Space X engineers are nowhere near 200k.

    Last time we had this argument you linked to a job posting where Glassdoor estimated a wildly high...
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    What does upto have to do with averages? Lots of...

    What does upto have to do with averages? Lots of folks here are pushing 100k+, but that doesn't mean machinist wages are high on average...

    In regards to how great raw compensation is in...
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    :rolleyes5: :rolleyes5: You've demonstrated...

    :rolleyes5: :rolleyes5:

    You've demonstrated before being wildly out of touch with wage discussions. I recall you adamantly claiming that Space X engineers (who are notoriously underpaid) were...
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    This is my experience as well. The days of all...

    This is my experience as well. The days of all Chinese suppliers having poor quality are well behind us. I hear quality complaints about other local shops more frequently than I do about Chinese...
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    We deal mostly with relatively high value, low...

    We deal mostly with relatively high value, low quantity parts. Almost everything ships air. I get packages from Japan all the time, and it's nearly the same cost and transit time as domestic.

    I...
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    I agree with your points. Perhaps it is not fair...

    I agree with your points. Perhaps it is not fair to say that global labor is approaching zero.

    However I have had several customers show me recent pricing from China, and it's often 25% or less...
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    Huh? @ EG, isn't minimum wage in Californa...

    Huh? @ EG, isn't minimum wage in Californa $14/hr? I think most major municipalities have higher minimum wage than that.
    Sometimes I wonder how long it's been since some of you have left the...
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    Again, very few customers are going to ship a...

    Again, very few customers are going to ship a part to China for repair, so yes, the market is wildly different.

    The shop making washers often feels like they need to charge based on perceived...
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    Can't easily outsource an on-site mechanical...

    Can't easily outsource an on-site mechanical repair.

    For a better comparison to machinists, look at the pay for A&P mechanics and instrument techs. Back in the day, fixing jumbo jets (or their...
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