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  1. Yeah, the Mori clones are the only modern...

    Yeah, the Mori clones are the only modern machines I've seen and run that hold a candle to the good old american iron. They dont have the same feel, not even close, but they can take a cut and handle...
  2. Lot of guys think highly of these: Whacheon...

    Lot of guys think highly of these:
    Whacheon U.S.A., Inc. - Commercial Lathes - Used Lathe Equipment & Parts - www.whacheon.com

    I've run them and they are solid machines (mori seiki clones).

    I...
  3. On the 3axis config, they look like about 1/2 the...

    On the 3axis config, they look like about 1/2 the machine a Doosan BM would be...and the doosan BM is about 1/2 of a SNK, MHI, Okuma, or even the box way Doosan offering. I was wondering about a...
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    Sorry there are 2 facts here. Darrin is still a...

    Sorry there are 2 facts here. Darrin is still a con man.
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    The only absolute fact here is you can nuke any...

    The only absolute fact here is you can nuke any good thread if you toss in Trump's name. Also what happened to 1/2 the OPs posts?
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    The hotdog cart was what a gentleman from...

    The hotdog cart was what a gentleman from Houston, garyE i belive, told everyone who posted a starting a new shop thread on this site in the 2010-2012 range to buy, instead of starting a shop....
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    A 50yr old leblond would fall into industrial...

    A 50yr old leblond would fall into industrial machinery but thats not what I had in mind. Molds, pumps, presses, custom machines, etc. New(ish) stuff.
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    Yep this is normal here also. At least for...

    Yep this is normal here also. At least for industrial machinery and tooling.
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    That's essentially the hotdog cart argument. ...

    That's essentially the hotdog cart argument.

    Believe whatever you want, but the reality is that at some point in owning a business, especially a new one, there are going to be huge demands on...
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    I'm not sure what your point is? Lease new stuff...

    I'm not sure what your point is? Lease new stuff and pray you can actually generate sales? Hotdog cart? This has been discussed 1000 times on here. The two guys I was responding to, one lacked...
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    I mostly agree with you. Only took issue with the...

    I mostly agree with you. Only took issue with the part that we should all charge whatever we want to. Most owners/salesmen are already quoting as high as they can and still get the work.
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    Nothing is sure in life. As you already know,...

    Nothing is sure in life. As you already know, limit your personal expenses. Figure out what you think you want to do.

    Find a cheap, and expandable, place to put some used machines and get your...
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    I make small press bolsters on a pretty regular...

    I make small press bolsters on a pretty regular basis (the plate in this thread would fall within the small category). Typically working to flat and parallel .0015" per foot or better. I'm not a...
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    I think you should stick a couple machines in...

    I think you should stick a couple machines in your garage, try quoting, and then get back to us.

    It's not just your shop and the customer. It's your shop, all the other shops on the planet, and...
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    Any "real" 30x60 machine will have at least...

    Any "real" 30x60 machine will have at least double that table capacity. The magnetic chucks are a bit heavy though, and only cost around 20k for that size part, which is kinda necessary if you...
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    Really? At 4" thick it's not going to move that...

    Really? At 4" thick it's not going to move that much. What are you comparing difficult to? MIC6?

    I'd do this no problem for an actual customer.
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    Since OP hasnt come back: A36 isnt heat...

    Since OP hasnt come back:

    A36 isnt heat treatable. The scale isnt a big deal, its only around .015 thick, just take at least a .030 cut and get under it. Tolerance is likely flat within .0015 per...
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    In a 40 taper Haas no doubt.

    In a 40 taper Haas no doubt.
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    Cat 50 box way with 4" facemill would do that in...

    Cat 50 box way with 4" facemill would do that in 30 minutes, but it's still half a day screwing around setting it up and trying to get paid.

    Assuming flat and parallel is wide open and we are only...
  20. I thought we were talking about refrig dryers...

    I thought we were talking about refrig dryers here per thread title. IDK why any refrig dryer would use air all the time.

    I suppose if he has a heatless desiccant dryer that would make sense. I...
  21. Did you try following the dealers advise?? I have...

    Did you try following the dealers advise?? I have a Zeks, and if the air isnt running, it only cycles maybe once every 2hrs for a couple minutes. I leave it on all the time because when it's hot in...
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    Well there arent a whole lot of guys left that...

    Well there arent a whole lot of guys left that can take a part print and build a tool around it. Thats the classic toolmaker imo. Doesn't matter the part or process, you build whats needed to run the...
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    Yes. MHI is on my short list for large machines....

    Yes. MHI is on my short list for large machines. I bought the Okuma 560, and hope to add an Okuma HMC down the road.

    My workload shifted over the past year, from all really low volume large and...
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    I didnt spend much time talking to Yamazen, but I...

    I didnt spend much time talking to Yamazen, but I got the impression they knew their stuff and wanted me to succeed.

    *Every* other dealer I met just wanted to sell me their machine, and didnt...
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    That's around what I was thinking...I guess that...

    That's around what I was thinking...I guess that explains why used machines are going so high, 10-15% off new price for a few year old machine is a "great deal".
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