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    Don't think so. Depends on the indicator.But at...

    Don't think so.
    Depends on the indicator.But at any rate the correction factor is much lower for contact angles .Think for there to be double reading compared to the angle of the finger you need to...
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    For what its worth, on my FP3 that snubber is...

    For what its worth, on my FP3 that snubber is accessible from under the casting that supports the hand wheel....

    Further, the FP-NC's also had friction devices on the hand wheels. There the...
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    For sure.... Think that is the reason that...

    For sure....
    Think that is the reason that Deckel fitted the first gen FP-NC's with hand wheels..
    Their target market were tool makers and the like who were comfortable with manual machines.......
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    Peter: Your point is valid.. If you have a work...

    Peter:
    Your point is valid.. If you have a work force that is unskilled or unwilling to try different approaches then the manual setup pays.....
    But to think you need any familiarization with "CNC"...
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    Not sure on your FP1..But Deckel did employ a...

    Not sure on your FP1..But Deckel did employ a friction device on some of the later machines to retard the "Z" hand wheel....
    My first gen FP2 does not have this feature, but my early FP3 does........
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    Not at all sure i would agree with that...

    Not at all sure i would agree with that statement. Some of the older CNC controls are pretty slick at doing the simple stuff...Not super featured and long term reliability might be an issue...
    But i...
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    Just re-read your post above, and think i...

    Just re-read your post above, and think i misunderstood what you were planning to do.
    Are you thinking of swapping the spindle assemblies ...Fit the FP2 unit into your FP1 vertical head casting.
    ...
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    Boats: You are forgetting about the differences...

    Boats:
    You are forgetting about the differences in the drive gearing geometry....
    They will not interchange. Must make some sort of compromise gear to work with the 14.5* pressure angle FP1 gears...
  9. Don: I totally understand the design limit to...

    Don:
    I totally understand the design limit to make the retro control station "universal" for either CRT or LCD....
    The end story is that your solution works!
    I just want something a little more...
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    Nice machine....presentation for my eye looks a...

    Nice machine....presentation for my eye looks a bit busy.....Looks like stuff /controls added on , less integrated, but maybe it is just
    a case of not being familiar with that machine...

    Can you...
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    Think .002mm is fine....anything more sensitive...

    Think .002mm is fine....anything more sensitive becomes difficult to get reliable readings when using, trying to set to zero etc....Need a good rigid magnetic base or clamp setup. Personal favorite...
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    I would present the opposing argument. IMO the...

    I would present the opposing argument.
    IMO the spindles of any mill are its heart. Should they become damaged the machine in effect becomes worthless.

    There is no telling the condition of the...
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    Dennis: Be sure to have a look (feel) at the...

    Dennis:

    Be sure to have a look (feel) at the inside ledge of the "T" slots for the vertical head .
    Lots of these older machines have been abused and have had the inside ledge of the slot...
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    Has Dialog11 control. More modern than the...

    Has Dialog11 control. More modern than the Dialog4 but very expensive to repair most folks say.
    Never had one , but unlike the Dialog 2,3 and4 controls which have discrete components and are...
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    Did not say that exactly right. I would...

    Did not say that exactly right. I would certainly remove the work table (angle table,swivel,angle table etc) what ever there is on the machine to hold the work....

    What i meant was to remove the...
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    Chris: Its possible depending on what and how...

    Chris:
    Its possible depending on what and how the door is fitted to get a bigger machine through than the opening.....Have done this myself.

    Goes something like this....The machine is moved to...
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    Lots of ways to go about this..... If running a...

    Lots of ways to go about this.....
    If running a real Deckel FP-NC w/Dialog control you can program for a boring cycle (canned cycle) Spindle starts and advances at teh programmed RPM till the depth...
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    Paul: Thanks for the profile. Reading through...

    Paul:
    Thanks for the profile.
    Reading through your reply it strikes me that perhaps you might look at this differently.
    Were it me in your position, and knowing what i know now, i would be...
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    Paul: Bit slow here so thought i would share...

    Paul:
    Bit slow here so thought i would share some thoughts about retrofitting a Deckel FP-NC, on the off chance that some of this had not already crossed your thinking on this project.

    First off,...
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    Paul: With the FP-NC's the big space hog is the...

    Paul:
    With the FP-NC's the big space hog is the "LARGE" electrical cabinet that houses the large electrical needs like the servo drives.
    Be aware that the original servos on the Dialog machines...
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    Sorry , can't really answer that (year of build)...

    Sorry , can't really answer that (year of build) My belief is that the Flip design came in around 1986 or so...but with Deckel its a bit nebulous ...they seemed to have plenty of
    design overlap so i...
  22. Think we had a discussion about the balls , the...

    Think we had a discussion about the balls , the pre-load and all....glad it worked out for you.
    Did you check the "truth" of the height and plane of the tail spindle to the work head?
    What material...
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    Some general information re. your quest. First...

    Some general information re. your quest.

    First off be careful. The first gen FP-NC's seem to have a affinity for having galled ways on the vertical slides. More so i think on the earlier "non...
  24. Cleaning and lubricating is a good idea....

    Cleaning and lubricating is a good idea.
    Advantage to this style chuck:

    Grip! .................Closes tighter than scroll chuck.
    Speed of jaw change:................Can reverse master jaws from...
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    For some board level repairs suggest the same:...

    For some board level repairs suggest the same: Alan Hantke (Wrench) . He has done repairs for me on occasion. Has dome upgrade work on the power supply boards for my machines that are
    in...
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