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    I see all these guys posting how they work 12 hour days regularly, I feel like I'm slacking off. The company I'm with now has a standard M-F, 6:00-2:30 schedules for machinists, and 6:00-3:00 for welders (they get an hour lunch). We hardly ever work more than 8 in a day, but that's because they don't like to pay overtime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    Steel mill in nearby Youngstown last month, was having an "On air job fair",
    had allot of positions to fill, went into detail on each one.

    And near the end of the show, they announced the "Schedule"....

    They work "Four twelves".

    That is 4, twelve hour days, 4 days off, then 4 twelve hour nights.

    lather, rinse, spit, repeat....
    There's a major rubber and tire company a family member of mine use to work for that has a similar shift. They have four different shifts they call "rotating swing shifts". You work 12 hour shifts, 4 nights, 3 off, 3 days, 1 off, 3 nights, 3 off, 4 days, 7 off. They laid the different shifts out so everyone was on the same rotating schedule, but all at different times. The results from that, as I witnessed, were he was only worth anything 10 out of every 28 days because he was either sleeping, or exhausted. But they paid good..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post
    Is the idea of a balanced work and life situation utopia to many Americans? OT is unavoidable but constant OT? Underpaid workers or lousy planning?

    In most of EU around 5 weeks annual paid vacation is MANDATORY and OT avoided when possible.

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    As for myself - I will do everything in my power to avoid European Socialism. I don't want to be taken care of by the State. I want them to stay out of my business and I will make my way in the world the best I can and I have never asked for handouts.

    I raised a family of five children as the sole bread winner. It took a lot of work to do it but I would do it again in a heart-beat. I worked 55-60 hours a week pretty consistently. We also homeschooled our children. My wife was very resourceful in making sure what I earned went as far as possible.

    All my children are grown now. My oldest (my only daughter) is a stay at home mom that runs a cottage industry re-selling. My oldest son is president of a multi-million dollar construction company. My two middle sons work with me. My youngest son is a West Point cadet.

    I have 10 grandchildren with the 11th coming any day. I call it "The American Dream" - and a life blessed by God.

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    My job has open hours, within reason. Some choose 8 5s, some come in early, some come in late. I choose 4 10s, getting in as early as possible. We are a small mold shop with everybody on a different project, so it works for us. We get no formal breaks, usually filling my coffee up is fine, but do get paid lunch.

    My last job's hours were as-needed, and getting bounced around the clock with no notice. Nope, didn't make it too long there. One of the machines had two guys on 12s. Thirteen days on, one day off. One day off every two weeks. No thanks.

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    Joe Miranda, you are a blessed man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob F. View Post
    LOL That "remote island" is in a fjord and surrounded by land less than 1½ miles away. Add to that that there is a ferry that sails to and fro. Also 60 miles from Copenhagen.

    We have a general election coming up soon so politicians and political parties (we have at least 10) are all trying to get in the news.

    The "refugees" in question have all been refused stay in Denmark either because they have done something criminal while in Denmark or in the country they "fled" from. I doubt if it'll happen as it isn't the first time it's been suggested.

    BTW how are things going at the Mexican border? Kids still getting separated from their parents and/or getting gassed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post

    BTW how are things going at the Mexican border? Kids still getting separated from their parents...?

    Well what they can say, the US isn't quite as relaxed about child trafficking as most countries in Europe...
    I sure haven't heard of Denmark being all that welcoming to all the migrants over there, y'all a bunch of white nationalists or something? just think you could be as wonderful as Sweden. But eh, if you want to take some MS13 members into your home plane tickets aren't that expensive, would add some nice diversity over there. Entropy could be your strength too...

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    Came across this article on this being a big move now the four day work schedule is gaining steady. It is considered a more productive schedule and better for the health lessening stress. Employees waste less time and plan their days better when the four day vs five is a incentive . It was suggested too because the company could pay 15% less weekly schedule also. Go figure I like the four day schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Miranda View Post
    As for myself - I will do everything in my power to avoid European Socialism. I don't want to be taken care of by the State. I want them to stay out of my business and I will make my way in the world the best I can and I have never asked for handouts.

    I raised a family of five children as the sole bread winner. It took a lot of work to do it but I would do it again in a heart-beat. I worked 55-60 hours a week pretty consistently. We also homeschooled our children. My wife was very resourceful in making sure what I earned went as far as possible.

    All my children are grown now. My oldest (my only daughter) is a stay at home mom that runs a cottage industry re-selling. My oldest son is president of a multi-million dollar construction company. My two middle sons work with me. My youngest son is a West Point cadet.

    I have 10 grandchildren with the 11th coming any day. I call it "The American Dream" - and a life blessed by God.

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    Joe you are truly blessed by God. What you describe are difficult things to do and sometimes people just do the very best that they can and thank God for a life you can give things the best try.

    I see things in light of a living God I do not understand why
    that could be a wrong outlook in any way yet I have been shocked how persons would look things over in a positive outlook a spiritual one.

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    Having worked a multitude of shifts, varying from 5 8s to 12 hour overnights that were M-T on, W-Th off, F-Su on, M-T off, W-Th on, F-Su off I can say I enjoy the 4 10s. Our company recently made the shift from 5 8s to 4 10s and have actually seen productivity go up, hitting previously un-achievable marks (i.e. earned hours, reciepts to stock, etc.).
    With the change to 4 10s we have also reached the milestones with fewer people in our workforce (approx. 55).
    To make this switch we added and hour before and after the previous schedule, so production now runs 6-4:30 M-Th with optional overtime on F.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlasmaOnTheBrain View Post
    Hi, I'm just an employee and have recently suggested this idea to the boss.
    Has anyone here done such a shift and what were the issues and or problems that developed?
    The biggest issue the boss had was wanting to have the business open and capable 5 days a week. The solution I had (which I've been discussing with other employees) was to shift who had which day off each week so that enough of the workforce would be present to do whatever job was needed. So one person would have a friday off and another would have a monday, maybe with some sort of rotation(every 2 weeks the day off shifts or similar) if people felt it necessary.

    The shop is a smaller job/prototype shop with a few steady production jobs and about 35 employees.
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    My place of employment makes a couple different products, with different styles to each. A year ago, we went from 5 eight hour days to 4 ten hour days and production has increased to the point we don't work overtime anymore. Each division has approx 5 machines in a group and the time off goes like this: one guy will have Monday off this week, the next week he will have Tuesday off, etc. When he has Friday off, then will have the next Monday off also, a four day weekend every 5 weeks.

    All of us agree that when you have a Wednesday off, it breaks up the week real nice. There are about 60 of us in the shop, and like I stated, the overtime has been cut right off, production has increased, because whomever has the day off, the other guys can cover that machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WincoME View Post
    Having worked a multitude of shifts, varying from 5 8s to 12 hour overnights that were M-T on, W-Th off, F-Su on, M-T off, W-Th on, F-Su off I can say I enjoy the 4 10s. Our company recently made the shift from 5 8s to 4 10s and have actually seen productivity go up, hitting previously un-achievable marks (i.e. earned hours, reciepts to stock, etc.).
    With the change to 4 10s we have also reached the milestones with fewer people in our workforce (approx. 55).
    To make this switch we added and hour before and after the previous schedule, so production now runs 6-4:30 M-Th with optional overtime on F.
    Excellent first post, thank you.

    Can you tell us a little about your shop? Is it CNC production only? Small order manual stuff? Does the 4/10's apply to office staff as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    Excellent first post, thank you.

    Can you tell us a little about your shop? Is it CNC production only? Small order manual stuff? Does the 4/10's apply to office staff as well?
    My shop machines PTO generator gear cases and shafts, which are currently the only items on our CNCs. We recently downsized the shop as some of the product had been obsoleted. We also do our own sheet metal forming and painting. We also used to make our own generator windings in house, but it has become unprofitable and unfeasible to update machines to be competitive.
    4/10s currently only applies to the production staff and individuals who work on the production floor (i.e. Operations Manager, Supervisors, Manufacturing Engineer).

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    our shop has been 4-10's for as long as I know. typically it was a make your own work schedule. most worked 4-10's to have off friday with having friday to work OT or lost hours through the week. Sometimes 1:30 in the afternoon and your haveing a bad day just clock out and go home. in the past three years they have made it mandatory 10 hr days with friday being OT but many work more then 10 hours. makes fridays nice to have a few hours of OT and still be able to do some stuff friday late morning and afternoon

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    The shop I work for does 4 10's. I think it's a great perk for the shop itself because Friday can be used to help catch up on potentially late jobs or to help customers out with hot jobs. Office staff is salary and are required to work on Fridays but they normally only work until 2-3pm I believe. I'm the Production Planner and generally work until 11 during busy times to help stay ahead for the next week.


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