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Buy robot or use gunpoint.
Seriously the current environment is the problem. Take away that if the incentive and reward is not there then expect the new normal is training people yourselves. These trade school people finish with debt and have been told they will make money. They will follow that. Gone are the times when they will stay when they look in their hand and there is nothing there.
It is encouraging actually to see such rational appraisals from the younger generation. They are different than we were. They can perceive reality and will go wherever they can earn to a desired level. In manufacturing it is where opportunities for advancement, pay, and benefits are offered.
I'm all for giving the green tech school kids a chance. I don't own a business, so my opinion is just that and basically worthless, but I remember hearing about internships. Training kids to do the job your way and the value that investing in a young person can bring. Two good Richard Branson quotes: "Train people well enough to leave, treat them well enough to stay" and "Take care of your employees and they'll take care of your business." Personally I think these are considered outdated philosophies. I get there are bad eggs, but those can be weeded out.
I really liked those quotes, here is another from Zig Ziglar “The only thing worse than training employees and having them leave is not training employees and having them stay.”
That was Henry Ford
I really liked those quotes, here is another from Zig Ziglar “The only thing worse than training employees and having them leave is not training employees and having them stay.”
There's a lot of that stuff on the innertubes. Lots of songs from the fifties get covered by someone now, and the innernet credits this newby kid who wasn't even born when the song came out.So if you do a quick google of the quote nearly every site credits Zig Ziglar.
The wild years expire ? Oh shitPeople who are well past their wild years, in most cases.
There's a lot of that stuff on the innertubes. Lots of songs from the fifties get covered by someone now, and the innernet credits this newby kid who wasn't even born when the song came out.
Google search is not really good for facts
I have been hiring "kids" from community college programs since the late 80s.
If somebody spent 2 years of their own time and money learning, its a pretty good sign they are commited.
I always calll up the instructors, and get them to send me the best students.
Over the years, I have gotten to know the local teachers at the couple of community colleges that train around here, so they send me grads who are a good fit.
The funny thing, though, is they are seldom "kids".
I have had 2 or 3 that were 20 or 22, but the range of ages and previous jobs has been huge.
Several vets, ranging from almost 30 to over 40, who went back to trade school on their veterans benefits.
A couple of ex cons (both great employees) who got free tuition thru a state program.
A few mid life crisis job changers,
I would say the average age of the people I have hired from 2 year AA programs from public community colleges was 30.
People who are well past their wild years, in most cases.
Find out if there is a community college with machining or manufacturing technology programs near you. SPEAK, not email to an instructor or department head, describe your shop, and ask for their best students.
Its been my experience that you get quality employees that way.
What is sad is I was up for a supervisor position somewhere and they heavily hinted they only wanted to hire the local farmer's kids and most were backyard hicks. Now, don't get me wrong, I want to hire those guys too , but when they didn't care about the two community colleges each within 1.5hrs of the shop. I knew the shop wasn't worth the headaches.
Whether it was local economic development/tax breaks or the just wanted to pay less in wages I wont know.
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