Mad Mazak
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With all this talk about tariffs. When will we see a increase in carbide cost. Most of my carbide is Sandvix.:http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/images/smilies/frown.gif(
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With all this talk about tariffs. When will we see a increase in carbide cost. Most of my carbide is Sandvix.:http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/images/smilies/frown.gif(
Short answer, is expect a price increase every January on carbide inserts & endmills, unless the economy is really down.
The recent tarrifs by the trump administration so far have simply been on aluminum & steel imports, not tungsten carbide raw materials.
That's because Raw Tungsten generally comes from China.. And apparently the administration is now more concerned with jobs in China than the US.
Well, I was just quoted 3.04/lb for 3/4" 303 round bars. That was NAS (North American Steel) material.
That's approx 2x .50/lb increases so far this year.
I really don't see a price increase on carbide tools coming due to this recent flurry of action.
A tariff on Tungsten, WC(tungsten carbide powder) or APT(ore) would make no sense as the is no capability of supplying this from inside the US.
There would be no winners here to support so it would be a losing deal for the country.
Retaliation trade war type stuff is a possibility, be it very remote.
Piss off your partners enough when they know they hold a large amount of the worlds stock on something and they might go looking for using some things you need.
Bob
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Trump makes business decision every hour. you expect to keep up with him you better think a lot faster. Tariff change ? like i would expect Tariffs to change a few thousand times on thousands of materials daily, every day.
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Trump makes business decision every hour. you expect to keep up with him you better think a lot faster. Tariff change ? like i would expect Tariffs to change a few thousand times on thousands of materials daily, every day.
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sort of like prices on commodities like pork bellies or bushels of corn price never stable and dont expect it. make a deal and price can change, dont make a deal price can change
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with unemployment at record lows what better time to renegotiate
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price of steel went up from tariff i thought it went up already unless you accept it going up 25% every month maybe 2500% price increase before end of year
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in many countries ANY thing you buy, you negotiate price each time. each day each hour all items can change price. there is no fixed price. its how bad you want item and how bad store needs to sell it. many a time best thing is walk away when price too high
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and yes i have come back to store hours later after looking in other stores and price was higher when i came back cause they knew i could not get a better price when i came back to store 2 hours later. worse thing is they were probably laughing at me about it. get used to it (price changes)
Not touching the political aspect of that with a 10-foot pole, but yes, a lot of the raw tungsten & tantalum comes from China. It's typical however for manufacturers to adjust their prices every year however. Keep in mind that a majority of the carbide inserts in the USA, are imported from places like Sweden, Germany, Israel & Japan. I would imagine that most of the carbide rod comes from Europe & Japan as well.
Same here . I almost passed out when I got pricing for some 303 a couple weeks ago. Ended up being Spanish material, not USA.
Regards.
Mike
I am not well informed on this matter, but don't Sandvik get a lot of their tungsten from South America?
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