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11-17-2020, 05:18 PM #201
Last edited by Ox; 11-18-2020 at 04:07 PM. Reason: Added quote since this post ended up on next page
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11-18-2020, 11:07 AM #202
Kinda like alcohol. Employee comes in with a snoot full, and out he/she goes. Same for coming in stoned. Many smaller shops don't drug test (yet) but I suspect that's going to change. Here in NJ it just became legal, so I suspect a lot of shops are going to have to address an issue they didn't before.
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11-18-2020, 11:27 AM #203
So how do you quantify if a person is under the influence?
Alcohol is rather straight forward and you can use quantifiable testing to protect yourself. i.e blood test or breathalyzer.
We currently do not have the technology to determine when under the influence with most drugs. Just positive or negative on a test.
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11-18-2020, 11:39 AM #204
So this will be installed next to the time clock ?
Air Force Pilot's Test
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11-18-2020, 03:57 PM #205
I worked at a shop once where a guy came back from lunch stoned out of his mind. Shortly thereafter I was taking to the E.R. after putting his hand between chuck and stop on an automatic turret lathe. While in the E.R. he was trying steal drugs out of the cabinets. I told him if didn't settle down I would knock him the fuck out.
He got fired when we got back.
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11-19-2020, 11:01 AM #206
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11-20-2020, 12:40 PM #207
If legalized or decriminalized then as usual it relates to how a employee performs. Anyone using a drug/s will eventually stand out or get cleaned out. If is is so obvious a problem it is always noticed and something happens-they leave.
If the law changes then companies need not be afraid of the fact they use marijuana as the law addressed it. Sure testing can be done to keep those who test positive from getting or even keeping a job.
Bottom line is that with a change in the law a company may most likely miss out on highly skilled employees. Too another area that often negatively effects selection is if a person has a criminal record. Often those are blocks to many as regards hiring and by outright not hiring them one misses many great employees who have straightened out their lives and stay out of jail.
Regarding fairness many can not overcome fear of hiring them which does nothing to lessen recidivism.
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11-23-2020, 11:46 AM #208
"I don't know that there is a good answer to the OPs question. What folks do after hours is their business, but when it affects your work, it's a problem. The testing methods that work well for alcohol and other drugs don't seem to be as sophisticated for marijuana. I'm sure it will work itself out over time, but we're in a strange limbo at the moment."
I think the quote above goes to the crux of the issue. It is not about drugs it is about performance. Chemical tests are easy and well accepted in court. What we really should be doing is a performance test ... mental as well as physical ... not easy and not cheap but would show up lack of sleep, simply a bad nite, having a bad day, fight with the wife, etc. I think is it going to be a long time before we get there.
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11-29-2020, 07:12 PM #209
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11-29-2020, 07:40 PM #210
Bit of a shame, as I like his icon (I'm into art), but yeah, pure spam. Did you report it?
Update: the icon is early Picasso:
Pablo Picasso's Early Life
His "child drawings" period, I guess
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11-30-2020, 12:56 PM #211
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11-30-2020, 01:09 PM #212
What link is still live?
I highly doubt that Gordon's version wouldn't have stripped quoted posts either.
If any of you see anything other than the guys name and that he has been banned - please tell me, 'cause that's all I see.
I used to always totally delete those posts/members, but then y'all don't realize it when it happens, so I started dooing it this way.
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Ox
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11-30-2020, 01:36 PM #213
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11-30-2020, 01:42 PM #214
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