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    Quote Originally Posted by motion guru View Post
    Covington . . . that brings back memories. I grew up in Renton and moved out to Lake Sawyer / Black Diamond when in HS . . . bought my first home in Covington (Timberlane). I moved to be closer to my wife's family. My family was a little closer to what you see in Hillbilly Elegy and my wife's folks were a much better influence on my kids so we moved away from Seattle and I don't regret it for a moment.
    Timberlane! We bought our first house in there, and we're still in it. When I bought it there were vinyl gutters on all the houses. Later on I learned everyone had vinyl because the crackheads were stealing metal gutters for scrap recycling value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug View Post
    Don't worry about so much about Seattle weather.

    According to an article in yesterday's Seattle Times, if you'd moved here 5 years ago, bought a $500K house it'd now be worth $765K. How many of you increased your net worth by $53K/year just for breathing? That's almost like being paid a tax free thousand bucks a week for tolerating a little drizzle.

    That same article noted that we're currently second to Phoenix in real estate appreciation.
    Well, depends. Appraised value, or current market/comps value? In my limited experience appraisal (sorry, clarfiy for property tax rates) value is always higher than *actual* value. We bought our house in FL in 2017 for 175k, and by property tax value our house is worth just about 200k now (no improvements either, no deck/pool added, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1974 View Post
    Well, depends. Appraised value, or current market/comps value? In my limited experience appraisal (sorry, clarfiy for property tax rates) value is always higher than *actual* value. We bought our house in FL in 2017 for 175k, and by property tax value our house is worth just about 200k now (no improvements either, no deck/pool added, etc).
    In this area value for property taxes have always been substantially lower than actual market value. The increased value I mentioned was based on sales history not appraisals.

    $175K for a house....? Hard to imagine in Seattle, I would almost guarantee you couldn't find a vacant lot for that in Seattle, certainly not a well located lot. In my formerly affordable neighborhood houses that are tear downs are going for $750K. Builders buy for $750K, tear down and put $500K- $600K into a new house and sell for $2M.

    I know it sounds totally crazy, but it's happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug View Post
    In this area value for property taxes have always been substantially lower than actual market value. The increased value I mentioned was based on sales history not appraisals.

    $175K for a house....? Hard to imagine in Seattle, I would almost guarantee you couldn't find a vacant lot for that in Seattle, certainly not a well located lot. In my formerly affordable neighborhood houses that are tear downs are going for $750K. Builders buy for $750K, tear down and put $500K- $600K into a new house and sell for $2M.

    I know it sounds totally crazy, but it's happening.
    Where I used to live 175k would buy a whole lot of house, 4 beds/baths, some acreage, 2 car garage, etc. That is about the best "budget" houses in my area, 150k and under (not mobile or modular) won't get you anything but a fixer upper at best... go closer to the beach, and that might be a decent downpayment.

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    Interesting post. I went to Infantry AIT at Fort Lewis in May/June 1967. They issued us Navy wet-weather gear to carry everywhere because it rained so hard every day around noon. Out in the woods you crawled around in foot-high moss...where I once encountered a foot-long slug. But when the sun was out the towering cumulus clouds were spectacular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie gary View Post
    Timberlane! We bought our first house in there, and we're still in it. When I bought it there were vinyl gutters on all the houses. Later on I learned everyone had vinyl because the crackheads were stealing metal gutters for scrap recycling value.
    Ha . . . found the first house my wife and I bought way back in 1991 and sold in 1995. Doesn’t look like they have washed it since we moved out! The houses were cheap in that neighborhood and even back then it was called “Meth Alley” . . . was all we could afford with my first job out of college and my wife staying home with a baby.
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    I remember putting those landscaping timber’s in. Also put a new roof on it as well as completely rewired part of the basement and put a new bathroom in. That house was a disaster when I bought it and I couldn’t sell it in good conscience without fixing all the stuff that I found wrong with it.

    We paid $104k for it. Zillow has it at almost $400k today? Unbelievable!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldwrench View Post
    Interesting post. I went to Infantry AIT at Fort Lewis in May/June 1967. They issued us Navy wet-weather gear to carry everywhere because it rained so hard every day around noon. Out in the woods you crawled around in foot-high moss...where I once encountered a foot-long slug. But when the sun was out the towering cumulus clouds were spectacular.
    Interesting story Old', but it's not my experience. Maybe you're exaggerating a bit, huh?

    Until age 18 I lived within 5 miles of part of the Fort Lewis Reservation (which covers a lot of territory, not all of it contiguous). Back in those days it wasn't fenced as well as now, then it wasn't hard to find open gates. High school drinking parties on the "res" were a big deal. Not happening today though.

    The reservation was a place we could make good money picking fir cones for a buyer just south of Fort Lewis. In a couple hours after school I remember making 8 bucks. Fort Lewis is mostly wooded, lots of fir trees. It was against the law to even be there, we always figured if we ever got caught the MP's would only escort us back to the highway.

    We lived on forty wooded acres, pretty much the same as the res. Hard rain every day at noon, no, maybe drizzle at worst and not every day, summers are nice. Foot high moss, nope, never saw that and don't know what that'd be. Moss that I know is low to the ground. We had what we called banana slugs because of a yellow stripe, never more than 6" and haven't seen one in years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualkit View Post
    Other than being closer to family I could not imagine any benefits of that move, unless someone likes rain.
    I love rain, but from what I've heard about traffic there I would never make the move. I refuse to drive two hours to get from Seattle to Seattle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualkit View Post
    Other than being closer to family I could not imagine any benefits of that move, unless someone likes rain.
    That's a misconception.
    I lived for a year and a half 15 miles north of Seattle and never understood why people think it rains too much there. It only really rains in the winter. In Spring, Summer and Autumn I hardly saw any rain or even gray skies.
    Total rainfall is lower in Seattle than like Philadelphia or New York.

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    I see you bought in one of the newer divisions, where the homes are nicer. Basement? That would have been nice to have. The way the homes were built didn't impress me, so I've gone through mine and redone a lot of things.
    One good result of the economy crashing in 2008 was most of the people who bought houses on adjustable rate mortgages couldn't afford their payments and left. The crime rate plummeted, and I learned from a guy who took pictures of vacant houses for banks that 1/3 of the houses in Timberlane were vacant. The crime rate stayed low for years, but the shutdowns due to the pandemic have inspired people to start their thieving ways again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strostkovy View Post
    I love rain, but from what I've heard about traffic there I would never make the move. I refuse to drive two hours to get from Seattle to Seattle.
    LMAO! That's how I feel if I have to venture into Tampa. I hate the traffic here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fancuku View Post
    That's a misconception.
    I lived for a year and a half 15 miles north of Seattle and never understood why people think it rains too much there. It only really rains in the winter. In Spring, Summer and Autumn I hardly saw any rain or even gray skies.
    Um, maybe you were here for a very unique 18 months. I've been here (15 miles east of downtown Seattle) for 24 years, and it totally rains a lot in Spring and Autumn. The frequent (albeit light) rain starts in October and doesn't let up until the end of May (if we're lucky).

    Sure, the total inches of annual rain is less than, say, Kauai HI or many other places, but no one ever picks Seattle because it doesn't rain as much.

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    Got about 5 inches in the past 2 days here. Last couple months have been extra wet though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garwood View Post
    Got about 5 inches in the past 2 days here. Last couple months have been extra wet though.
    Yep, same in Seattle, we've had 20% of our usual annual rainfall in only 13 days.

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    Please send some to the Rockies eh?
    Colorado specifically if you need direction, but anywhere would help.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug View Post
    Interesting story Old', but it's not my experience. Maybe you're exaggerating a bit, huh?

    ...Moss that I know is low to the ground. We had what we called banana slugs because of a yellow stripe, never more than 6" and haven't seen one in years.
    The training areas were (obviously) not accessible for teenage drinking parties. The terrain was extremely varied. For example, they had a large open area named on the maps the Eightieth (?) Division Prairie, which was barren and rolling, to the point that the line of sight was pretty short and you could easily get lost. Guess that's why it was used for the land navigation course.

    Anyway, as to the moss: I got volunteered to be on the Agressor force whose job was to ambush the next batch of trainees, and that was in a spectacular (and wet) wooded area with fir trees on about fifteen-foot centers. We encountered a ground vegetation that the drill sergeants described as moss. It was extremely dense, with a soft needled structure like the familar woodland moss, and was well above eye level when low-crawling with a steel pot. I could hardly believe it, so I gazed across it to estimate its height.

    Even tho I've slept a few times since then I still remember it clearly—along with that slug. It was slick and black. I saw it from the side at a range of about two feet. I didn't notice a yellow stripe. I was passing by and left it alone, just mentally filing it away as another weird northwest curiosity along with apples in vending machines.

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    I am across the water from Seattle. Used to go there for a night out, take the ferry, come back the next day-
    The city is getting a lot like other big cities- homeless everywhere, gangs, dirty, incompetent management, etc. All with big money tech mixed in- used to be, Seattle was a real laid back place, lots of interesting little shops, it has changed a lot- all the fish docks are tourist traps now, seems like a lot of people are moving out recently from the core- telecommuting , riot aversion, etc- and the suburban property is sky rocketing in cost. The entire state is under control of the micromanaging do-gooder control freaks, and their stated goal is to turn it into California north.
    I want to move to Idaho or Montana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneaxe View Post
    The entire state is under control of the micromanaging do-gooder control freaks, and their stated goal is to turn it into California north.
    I want to move to Idaho or Montana.
    Only our "elite" high family-income Counties (Government and contractor sourced-mostly) are "blue" in Virginia.

    Majority of Counties by count of County, not population, are "red".

    Right around 400 years the family has been here, so I'd rather SEND the:

    "micromanaging do-gooder control freaks"

    ...whose stated goal is to turn it into California EAST!

    TF out-of state ......

    ... and STAY here meself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneaxe View Post
    I am across the water from Seattle. Used to go there for a night out, take the ferry, come back the next day-
    The city is getting a lot like other big cities- homeless everywhere, gangs, dirty, incompetent management, etc. All with big money tech mixed in- used to be, Seattle was a real laid back place, lots of interesting little shops, it has changed a lot- all the fish docks are tourist traps now, seems like a lot of people are moving out recently from the core- telecommuting , riot aversion, etc- and the suburban property is sky rocketing in cost. The entire state is under control of the micromanaging do-gooder control freaks, and their stated goal is to turn it into California north.
    I want to move to Idaho or Montana.
    Everyone I know of who wants to move out of California wants to move to Idaho. Now people are mentioning Montana because Idaho is getting too California-y

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strostkovy View Post
    Everyone I know of who wants to move out of California wants to move to Idaho. Now people are mentioning Montana because Idaho is getting too California-y
    Typcal of Kaliphoneyios to do things bass-ackwards.




    Yah want to improve the Kalifornia SSR's situation, yah don't move folks 500 miles EAST for a permanent relocation.





    Yah move 'em 500 miles WEST!



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