Hmmm, more than half of global coal consumption is now in China. Meanwhile global warming’s effects are here now.
Yes, they burn coal instead of oil. Ooooh, big difference. Oxidation-reduction, burning oil instead of coal does not magically make the CO2 go away.
The other small item you are missing is the number of people involved. I'm not going to go hunt up figures but pretty sure you'll find that
per capita the US is a far greater waster of all forms of energy than anyone else on the planet.
Another item you are conveniently ignoring in your finger-pointing session is that the government of China is spending billions on both research and practical applications of wind and solar, while electric vehicles vastly outnumber what the US and others are doing in that area. It's quite entertaining to hear the same people who scream and moan about electric vehicles and "Solyndra ! Solyndra !" suddenly getting all green (as long as they can claim the slant-eye bogeyman is less green than themselves. Otherwise it's drill, baby, drill ! Salmon ? Trees ? Tundra ? fuck 'em, we need jobs and growth !)
I’m not political but I’m starting to really dislike a country that only thinks of itself.
That would be the US, you're talking about ?
Ox said:
... thus with China producing steel cheaper than the NA market, along with their cheaper labor, they can blow us out of the water on these high volume processes.
It's not the labor. Honest. And the regulatory overhead dwarfs what the US has. The difference is more fundamental ... the tax code. What the government wants. Government of China wants employment and they do what it takes to achieve that goal. Government of the US wants the 1% to have everything, so they do what it takes to achieve that goal. Chinese people do not work nearly as hard as Americans. Put productivity into the equation and it's no longer "low cost labor".
I understand that you personally are, and likely were not involved in any of these fields, and that any low volume fab work is for the most part is still intact (your field) but to think of all the jobs that were lost when those 3 industries walked away, and the infrastructure (equipment related to) that became scrap value overnight from this move....
Sure, but you guys all love the 'competition' meme. It was fine when the competition was a bunch of destroyed countries but now that others are just as good or better, competition is not so good ? Go attack someone in an alley, then when he pulls a gun squeak that "It's unfair !" You start a fight, whatever comes next is what it is.
With the 3 highest volume fields almost wiped off the continent, I'm not sure how you are claiming that we make as much as we used to pre 2001?
Dunno, but I trust Reiss'es numbers more than these dorks. They don't match in any way, shape or form.
Sorry but these magazines have been peddling bullshit since I was twently. I used to believe it. Not no more, with age comes cynicism ?