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    My scrap isn't typically metal, I run mostly plastic and wood products. I have asked the local plastics vendor about the chips and was told there wasn't really anyone that wanted it. I didn't investigate any further so almost everything goes in the dumpster. The tiny bit of metal that I have gets tossed in a pile behind the shop in the alley and eventually it disappears. I used to save it and take it in. I don't recall once in the 20+ years of taking things to the local scrap yard ever getting my gas money back. If I take something to them it is to just get it out of the way as it won't fit in the dumpster.

    I have done alot of work for the different wood shops in my area and it is very similar situation as you guys have. The only possible outlet they have for someone buying wood chips is the guys supplying chips/shavings to horse people. It has to be sorted as Walnut is poisonous to horses. For them that means when they run walnut they have to go swap trailers out under the dust collector. It has also went from getting a little money for the chips to just being hopeful that the guys will haul it off for free. Otherwise they are paying huge amounts to WCA or the like to haul it off. One customer of mine has 4 molders and a rip saw etc and they typically fill a 24ft enclosed trailer in 1 week. That's blown in and settled.

    There is a pallet mfg company close that has a couple acres of wood chips piled up in small mountains because no one wants it. I have asked about making it into pellets to use as heat and here our energy prices aren't high enough (yet) to justify the expense of making the pellets and modifying the heating system to use them. At least that is what they told me...

    For now I am not running enough stuff through the shop to really have to add anything to the quote spreadsheet to account for extra waste removal.

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    well, you can't trust a scrap dealer as far as you can puke. The $.31/lb I was quoted for 6061 chips turned out to be pure horse shit.
    Long story short, it's more like $.12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Dickman View Post
    well, you can't trust a scrap dealer as far as you can puke. The $.31/lb I was quoted for 6061 chips turned out to be pure horse shit.
    Long story short, it's more like $.12
    Where are you shopping for prices. Is there still 3 scrap dealers in Pomona/Ontario and two in Riverside?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualkit View Post
    Where are you shopping for prices. Is there still 3 scrap dealers in Pomona/Ontario and two in Riverside?
    I don't know where any of these guys are out of. Unless they come to this area on a regular basis, they say they can't afford the fuel to come down here

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    Quote Originally Posted by john.k View Post
    they dudded me a whole big bin load ,20 ton approx ,for which I got zero ,cause they claimed it was lost in transit.
    how'd they "lose" a 20t scrap bin? It's not like it could get misplaced behind a tree or fall behind the couch!

    last time I took a bike load to the scrap yard I got (from memory): 30c/lb for an alloy wheel, 20c/lb alloy scrap, 1c/lb or thereabouts for tin shreds. Lead acid batteries are 25c/lb. Bought some stainless and alloy scrap (some bar, sheet and a hand sized chunk of mystery ss) for 50c/lb. I think I came out $5 and a happy hour and a half rummaging around the scrap yard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattthemuppet View Post
    how'd they "lose" a 20t scrap bin? It's not like it could get misplaced behind a tree or fall behind the couch!

    last time I took a bike load to the scrap yard I got (from memory): 30c/lb for an alloy wheel, 20c/lb alloy scrap, 1c/lb or thereabouts for tin shreds. Lead acid batteries are 25c/lb. Bought some stainless and alloy scrap (some bar, sheet and a hand sized chunk of mystery ss) for 50c/lb. I think I came out $5 and a happy hour and a half rummaging around the scrap yard.
    You got murdered on the tin, unless you meant $1/lb and even then you got shorted. Unless there's no market for tin scrap, last I checked it was worth more than copper.

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    Think he means light MS baling scrap.Ally has crashed ,just a matter of hanging on till prices rise....ally has an intrinsic value of around 60c of lekky per Lb to make ,so it cant stay low forever.Anyway ,my min sale on cast ally with cut steel studs is 50c/lb ,and extruded clean sheet is $1 ,but I can near always sell sheet to endusers if its not too damaged........anyhoo ,its Chinese NewYear and scrap prices are always reckoned to rise after chinese newyear.

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    OOh...looks like the new sars like coronavirus is giving the scrap market the jitters.Got an email from the locals that all standing scrap payment rates are cancelled as of 5 am this day.If the Chinese cant controll this virus,its gunna rip thru Africa and India where officialdom has a tenuous grip.


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