qualitymachinetools
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This thread may get locked, but just wanted to put a word out there about a company I was recently contacted by. It was pretty bad, so if I can steer one person in the right direction, its worth it and i know there are a lot of shop owners (or guys that work for small shop owners) on here so just trying to help everyone out.
The other day a company called and said they were a consulting firm, blah blah blah and it came up as a local number and not even a blocked call as normal, so I actually listened for more than 2 seconds. They are called Internatial Profit Associates, a consulting firm, after hearing that I told them no sorry was not interested as I never take any advice from anyone that calls me like that, so they are talking to the wrong guy, they tried to set up an appointment and I said no way no time sorry. After them blabbering for a few minutes and trying to get off the phone politely, I said shut up and I hung up. Called the local number back that was on caller ID, somehow it goes to a place in Chicago but is with a Pittsburgh area code, a woman answered, and they give me this speach about how they have 2000 employees and there is no way they can connect me to the guy I was talking to without an extension. But when I called back again a minute later I asked if this was Joe Walsh (name given to me when they called) and first he said yes can I help you. Voice was different and I just talked to him 3 minutes ago, so I asked what we were talking about because this did not sound like the same guy, he did not know and said he thought I said John Welsh, his mistake. I called yet again, someone different answered, I asked if this was Joe Walsh, he said what can I help you with like it was implying that this was Joe Welsh. But again was not him. So we had some fun with it for the day, every once in a while we would call back and screw with them, and make up names to ask for, and most of the time they would answer to those names.
Anyway, it appears that they scheduled this appointment anyway even though I said no and hing up, and this guy shows up. Says his name is Frank Delligatti. (probably not his real name, but just made up I think)
I was in the back working on a machine so he was here about 15 minutes in the front before anyone let me know, as they know not to let anyone in that looks crooked, especially when I am in the middle of working on a machine.
In that 15 minutes, he tried to get the girl in the front to let him look at financial records, and into my office to check out inventory, etc. This was supposed to be his consulting job and wanted to get started while I was busy. He was very pushy and made the people in the front very nervous. But he insisted he had an appointment with me, so they got me. Thankfully they did.
The guy started with this BS that he had an appointment and there would be a $1000 travel charge if he did not get to look at anything, but if I let him do his review then I was under no obligation to pay a dime.
This guy was the pushiest SOB that I have EVER met in a professional environment. I told him no, not interested and please leave now. He said I would be paying this bill, I said Not a chance, I told him again to get the F out, he WOULD NOT LEAVE. It was almost like I felt we were about to be held up or robbed that the guy was so bad.
Long story short, he would not leave, I told him I would call the police, he said go ahead because he would present the bill he was trying to collect for the appointment, so once he got that attitude I said good but there will only be one side because I meant I will call the police to come pick up your body off my floor, so then he got the message and left. I have never had to throw anyone out quite that roughly before who was supposedly not a criminal.
I just wanted to pass this along, because they had also called another machine shop owner in Pittsburgh that I know this week, and tried to also set something up with him. But he is almost never there and always out on the road working (he welds on heavy equipment too), so who knows if they came by there or not.
If you google IPA Scams or Suing IPA which I did AFTER this guy left, you can see this is a pretty large problem and I cannot see how nothing has been done about it. But it is clear after seeing what they tried to do, they are nothing but a bunch of scum.
Something very crooked is going on here, and after seeing what they try to do first hand, it really is bad. I should have probably shot the guy and did the local business a favor.
It appears they have some ties with politicians too so something crazy is going on.
Like I said this post may get locked and its OK if it does, but I thought it was important to get out there. I only wonder what would have happened if I was not there, I am sure one of the guys here would have stepped up, but this guy may have been really convincing and they may not have known any better. It was just rediculout the way this guy acted and the way the company acts when calling them. I will try to find the number again and post it, everyone here can ask for joe walsh and see how many answers you get.
So just watch out.
The other day a company called and said they were a consulting firm, blah blah blah and it came up as a local number and not even a blocked call as normal, so I actually listened for more than 2 seconds. They are called Internatial Profit Associates, a consulting firm, after hearing that I told them no sorry was not interested as I never take any advice from anyone that calls me like that, so they are talking to the wrong guy, they tried to set up an appointment and I said no way no time sorry. After them blabbering for a few minutes and trying to get off the phone politely, I said shut up and I hung up. Called the local number back that was on caller ID, somehow it goes to a place in Chicago but is with a Pittsburgh area code, a woman answered, and they give me this speach about how they have 2000 employees and there is no way they can connect me to the guy I was talking to without an extension. But when I called back again a minute later I asked if this was Joe Walsh (name given to me when they called) and first he said yes can I help you. Voice was different and I just talked to him 3 minutes ago, so I asked what we were talking about because this did not sound like the same guy, he did not know and said he thought I said John Welsh, his mistake. I called yet again, someone different answered, I asked if this was Joe Walsh, he said what can I help you with like it was implying that this was Joe Welsh. But again was not him. So we had some fun with it for the day, every once in a while we would call back and screw with them, and make up names to ask for, and most of the time they would answer to those names.
Anyway, it appears that they scheduled this appointment anyway even though I said no and hing up, and this guy shows up. Says his name is Frank Delligatti. (probably not his real name, but just made up I think)
I was in the back working on a machine so he was here about 15 minutes in the front before anyone let me know, as they know not to let anyone in that looks crooked, especially when I am in the middle of working on a machine.
In that 15 minutes, he tried to get the girl in the front to let him look at financial records, and into my office to check out inventory, etc. This was supposed to be his consulting job and wanted to get started while I was busy. He was very pushy and made the people in the front very nervous. But he insisted he had an appointment with me, so they got me. Thankfully they did.
The guy started with this BS that he had an appointment and there would be a $1000 travel charge if he did not get to look at anything, but if I let him do his review then I was under no obligation to pay a dime.
This guy was the pushiest SOB that I have EVER met in a professional environment. I told him no, not interested and please leave now. He said I would be paying this bill, I said Not a chance, I told him again to get the F out, he WOULD NOT LEAVE. It was almost like I felt we were about to be held up or robbed that the guy was so bad.
Long story short, he would not leave, I told him I would call the police, he said go ahead because he would present the bill he was trying to collect for the appointment, so once he got that attitude I said good but there will only be one side because I meant I will call the police to come pick up your body off my floor, so then he got the message and left. I have never had to throw anyone out quite that roughly before who was supposedly not a criminal.
I just wanted to pass this along, because they had also called another machine shop owner in Pittsburgh that I know this week, and tried to also set something up with him. But he is almost never there and always out on the road working (he welds on heavy equipment too), so who knows if they came by there or not.
If you google IPA Scams or Suing IPA which I did AFTER this guy left, you can see this is a pretty large problem and I cannot see how nothing has been done about it. But it is clear after seeing what they tried to do, they are nothing but a bunch of scum.
Something very crooked is going on here, and after seeing what they try to do first hand, it really is bad. I should have probably shot the guy and did the local business a favor.
It appears they have some ties with politicians too so something crazy is going on.
Like I said this post may get locked and its OK if it does, but I thought it was important to get out there. I only wonder what would have happened if I was not there, I am sure one of the guys here would have stepped up, but this guy may have been really convincing and they may not have known any better. It was just rediculout the way this guy acted and the way the company acts when calling them. I will try to find the number again and post it, everyone here can ask for joe walsh and see how many answers you get.
So just watch out.