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    Default The elusive “correct” Heavy 9 or 9L found.

    A website visitor e-mailed me with info on his wide 9, the more I checked, the more intrigued I became that this might be the one to have the S series headstock. I requested photos, and look what came in!
    Its a 456-A, B version Standard change gear, HMD bench 9L, yep, 2-1/4 spindle side oiling Heavy 9.
    Photo confirmed. Shipped 8/21/1939, made right in the same months as the start of the 10L.
    South Bend internal docs lists 9/14/39 as the ending date of the 9L spindle 2-1/4 spindle.

    Enjoy

    Steve
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    What's with the tailstock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLK001 View Post
    What's with the tailstock?
    It's a lever-tailstock, missing the lever. I have one and it's great for tapping, for a small thread you can undo the linkage on the lever for a light self-feed. The quill can also be clamped to use the handwheel. Cheers

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    I own one of those heavy 9's. It's a QC version with the cast iron motor base. Could
    provide photo and serial number on request.

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    Jim,
    I would like to see it yes and the serial number too!!

    Thanks,

    Steve

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    These things are like London buses. You wait ages to see one and then two come along together

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    I'm suew Jim can provide better info but here is a link to the sale ad I did - unfortuately most of the pictures from the rebuild thread are long gone FS: South Bend Heavy 9. Here's a youtibe link as well
    https://www.practicalmachinist.com/v...feature%3Dplcp

    Rick

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    Yep! This is what it looks like, now warehoused in my garage under a tarp, with a heater inside the motor
    housing for safe keeping. Only difference is the addition of a three phase motor and a VFD.

    If those photos are good enough I'll just supply the serial number.

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    More photos to follow, but for now:

    Serial number = 94191

    From the nameplate:

    Swing = 9 inch

    Bed length = 3 foot

    Catalog number = 159YB

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    Very Nice Jim,
    I think this is only the 3rd one I've recorded with photos of the S series headstock.

    Steve

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    I know a guy that has a wide 9 with the cast iron motor housing and solid tail stock leg. I did a little research and it was only made a couple years 38 39. He thought it was a 10L and wanted to trade me for my sececa falls 12". It has a very unique motor someone put in it. Variable speed by moving a lever which moves the brushes and even reverses and its 110v. Here are some pics.resized_20180930_102848.jpgresized_20180930_102859.jpg

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    I can't see the oil cups in that small of a photo, do you have a larger one?

    Steve

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    Sorry they're so small photos were taken with my phone no larger ones
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    There were several models of the wide bed or "letter series" 9 inch lathe in this time frame.
    There was a CBUMD (cast base underneath motor drive)R series model 109 without tapered gibbs. There also
    was a T series with tapered gibbs (model 109 also) these were both top oilers. There also were 2 models of the 159 cast base UMD, one was a T series 1 inch collet lathe with Top oiling headstock and one was an S series with side oiling headstock. The lathe in the photo is a top oiling headstock, if it has the 2-1/4 spindle it is a T series 159. If it has the small spindle and tapered gibbs it is a T series 109. If it does not have tapered gibbs and has the small spindle it is an R series 109.

    Steve

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    Attempting to upload photos of this heavy 9 to the dropbox, but am having problems with that...

    Please stand by as I try to resolve the technical difficulties...


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