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HELP! Need electrical savvy with wiring dillon reversing switch to US Motor!

djshortdog

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Good evening all. Excuse me for being the noob on the block here, as I could not find any postings pertaining to my specific motor, but I am in desperate need of help here!

For about a year now, I have been (off and on) looking for help with wiring a reversing switch to a US Motors general purpose motor. I bought an old South Bend 9" Model A lathe from a gentleman in town and have been in the process of restoring it. I have hit a snag with finding a competent individual in the local area that can wire a reversing switch to my motor. Ive actually already blown through one by erroneously leaving the switches in the back of the motor set up to run on 208v-230v, instead of 115v, which is what I need it to work with :bawling:. I know next to nothing myself on electrical systems, but using trial and error, I was able to get the motor to work in both forward and reverse, but after a time, the motor would begin to put out white smoke. I found out that this was from the paraffin wax leaking out of the capacitor on the top of the motor; one of the problems created as a result of the voltage oversight. After leaving it plugged up for a while, the smoke started to turn black in color, so I unplugged it and haven't used it since.

Basically what I need help with, is for a savvy member here to take a look at my wiring diagram that I created. This diagram had the motor working properly, but I just wanna make SURE that the wiring is correct before I blow another motor! All I need is for somebody to take a look at it, and offer suggestions, or corrections to the diagram, so I know what I did wrong, as well as offer insight on "whats happening".

I will post pictures of the wiring diagram I need comments/suggestions on, as well as the motor specs, the motor connection diagram and the wiring diagram for the reversing switch. Thank you all!

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These are the motor specifics

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This illustrates how to set the motor connections. Left side of the diagram is for the 115v, which is what I need it to be set on (115v, single phase, so I can use a regular household plug)

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Here is an image of the wiring diagram in the reversing switch, and below is a picture of what the entire wiring diagram looks like:
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I will also post up some pictures of how the motor connections look like, as well as the wiring diagram that I need comments/corrections on. I'm hoping that all that went wrong was just that initial switch to 115v, and everything else should work fine if I use my current wiring diagram, but I need some reassurance :D
 

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here is another picture of the motor connections, as well as the wiring diagrams I need feedback on.

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PART I NEED FEEDBACK ON:
Wiring Diagram for South Bend Lathe Motor.jpg

Internal position of switches when in FORWARD position:
Switch Position when in Forward.jpg

Internal position of switches when in REVERSE position:
Switch Position when in Reverse.jpg

Thanks again for any help you guys can give me on this!!! I've really been going crazy with all the dropped aid/hired electricians in the area that can't figure this out :/
 
In the first picture, it clearly states you should reverse red and black wires to reverse the motion.

You can use a DPDT switch as shown here:

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EDIT: You uploaded the images as I was typing the comment. The wiring is looks correct. You are already using a DPDT switch.
 
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ooh! thanks for that! Ok, so what it looks like I need to do, is REMOVE the power supply connections from terminals 2 and 6, and put them on 3 (+) and 4 (-)...then hook which wires coming from the motor onto terminals 1 and 2? Would that just be the 1 and 4 motor connections shown in the motor connections picture? Also...your image states its for a DC motor...but shouldn't this be for an AC setup?
 
I hate these kind of motors. You cannot tell what is really behind the terminals. I think your diagram is probably wrong, because you are likely bypassing some part of the starting circuit.

allan
 
I spent some time thinking about the internal wiring on this motor. I think the centrifugal switch is between terminal 5 and terminal 1, behind that board. So, you have to bring terminal 5 out to the switch, along with the black and red start wires. You will use the switch to switch L1, and L2 will bypass the switch entirely.

allan
 








 
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