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    I'm new to this all. Tooling, tool posts and shit all confuse the hell out of me and i really need some help.
    I have a miss 60's south bend 13. I'm looking for a drill chuck that goes in the tailstock i think. I am trying to find tool holders, I'm getting i think an aloris quick change post from my old boss and have absolutely no idea where to go from there.
    Please help! Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by SB1997 View Post
    I'm new to this all. Tooling, tool posts and shit all confuse the hell out of me and i really need some help.
    I have a miss 60's south bend 13. I'm looking for a drill chuck that goes in the tailstock i think. I am trying to find tool holders, I'm getting i think an aloris quick change post from my old boss and have absolutely no idea where to go from there.
    Please help! Thank you

    PDF pages about 17 or 18 from 1967 will tell you the tail stock has a #3 Morse taper which you will need to know

    http://www.wswells.com/data/catalog/...at_No.6801.pdf

    As to Aloris - they come in sizes - and you need a size suited to your 13". A gift of a big one (like CA or DA) from the boss isn't going to help you.

    All the sizes have their own dedicated tool holder blocks

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    I think Aloris and knock-offs are the most popular tool post addition to any lathe. If you're getting one for free, great! They take standard holders so you can set up your tool in the holder, then anytime you put holder into the toolpost, it returns to exactly the same place. You'll end up with dozens or more, but the knockoff holders work great with the genuine Aloris tool post so you can save some cash there. The only thing I do with the knockoffs is replace the allen screws with some decent ones from McMaster-Carr.

    Here's mine setup for internal threading:




    Here's my more commonly used holders on a magnetic bar:


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    As for a drill chuck for the tailstock, your tailstock should be MT3 (Morse Taper #3). Most drill chucks are Jacobs Taper (JT). You can usually buy a decent combo. I have a decent import combo from Shars Tool in St. Charles IL. It gets the job done and is pretty decent for the price:

    https://www.shars.com/1-32-1-2-j33-h...ll-chuck-shank

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    There is a lot to learn but you will have a lot of fun. Be ready to spend money on tooling. It will cost you more for tooling than you paid for the lathe.

    Drill chucks come in two major styles, keyless and keyed. I started with keyless then moved back to a keyed chuck. It was shorter and felt like it held the drills and such better. You'll need an "arbor" which has an MT taper on one and and a JT taper on the other end. You can find those at all the normal places. I bought mine at either MSCDirect or Grizzly. You buy the arbor that matches the drill chuck you want and the taper you have.

    The method of attaching the drill chuck to the arbor that I use is to clean the inside taper of the drill chuck with acetone and the outside of the arbor as well. Then I put the arbor in the freezer over night (I'm lazy). The next day I take the arbor out, give it a quick wipe with acetone, then push it into the socket of the drill chuck. I then hold the drill chuck and tap the tail of the arbor down onto a piece of wood a few times.

    After this, the arbor will be locked to the drill chuck.

    You will want center drills. These are short stubby two ended drills. They have a small point and then a cutting cone. They are used to start holes for drilling with the tail stock AND for drilling centers. Buy a set of four. Then buy two more sets of four. As Doubleboost use to say in his videos "The goal of a center drill is to snap off in your work piece."

    For your quick change tool post you are going to get the post itself, which includes a stud that goes down into a plate. That plate is unlikely to fit the compound of your lathe. This is intentional. It is over sized so that the person buying it can machine it to size to fit their particular compound. Either buy that plate from somebody that will machine it to size or be prepared to machine it to size yourself.

    If you have a milling machine or access to one or a friend with one, that is your best bet. If you don't, but you have a drill press you can make it yourself. I wouldn't want to but you can. Use the drill press to drill a series of holes on the edge to the right depth. Then you clamp that thing in a vise and take your file and start filing till you have the right size. OUCH.

    Note, you will need files. Make sure you get handles for your files. You should never ever use a file on a lathe that doesn't have a handle.

    Good luck and welcome to the fun.

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    As I recall @sb1997, you're near me in Illinois. If you need some help let me know.


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