WTB or WTT Hardinge Collet stamped " 1 W & S "

mjk · Jul 7, 2020

Would like to buy(if affordable) collets that match the one shown.

I bought a hand wheel closer setup with the one as shown 3/8" collet 15 years ago and a couple times just clamped the setup in the 3 jaw.
This week I made an adapter for an additional 4 jaw chuck so I made one for the handwheel setup.

I had made a bunch of e collet blanks, but if I can find the real thing, I could save them for a real E.

Or if you can ID the collet correctly .......that would be great

Mike

L Vanice · Jul 7, 2020

I checked my Hardinge collet catalogs and found Warner & Swasey No. 1 collets. They are made in up to 5/8" order hole or 17/32" hex and 7/16" square.

EBay has some W&S collets. There are many W&S No. 2 collets, but those are larger than W&S No. 1.

These are not numbered either 1 or 2 and no overall length is given, so you would have to ask the seller for dimensions.
Warner & Swasey W&S Collets 14" ROUND A.C. AC VARIOUS SIZES MADE IN THE USA!!! | eBay
Warner & Swasey W&S Collets 14" HEX & SQUARE AC VARIOUS SIZES MADE IN THE USA!!! | eBay

Hardinge lists W&S No. 2-14" collets and they are larger than the W&S No. 1. So you may have a hard time finding more of the W&S No. 1 collets.

You will be glad and sad to know that Hardinge will sell you a new 1 W&S collet for $173 each and up.
https://shophardinge.com/productGrid.aspx?catID=11006
https://shophardinge.com/productGrid.aspx?catID=11011

Larry

M.B. Naegle · Jul 7, 2020

I've had these for years and had nothing to put them in and clue what they fit, but they look like yours. There are no identifying marks on them other than having the sizes stamped on the face. some of the bigger bored ones look out of round, but they might still clamp well when in the collet closer(?).

2 1/2" long
7/8" diameter shank at very back
3/4" long taper
1 1/4" diameter back of taper
7/8" diameter front of taper.

There are no draw in threads of any kind. Sizes include 5/16", 9/32", 5/8", 19/32", 7/16"

mjk · Jul 8, 2020

Here's how this closer works pic 2,1,3,4 couldn't resort order

and dimensions of the blanks I made using the 1 sample I had

calvin b · Jul 9, 2020

Mike, Sir
Try small tools in Cleveland. That's a w&s #1 solid collet.. They have them in spades on the shelves at small tools ( or GAHR, the two companies merged and are under the same roof now..) They should be able to hook you up for a bit less than Hardinge...
Hope this helps
Stay safe
Calvin B

M.B. Naegle · Jul 9, 2020

mjk, you need to clear out your message inbox. Your collets have shipped.

rakort · Jul 9, 2020

Looks like M.B. Naegle has you covered with a few of them.

mjk said:
Here's how this closer works pic 2,1,3,4 couldn't resort order

and dimensions of the blanks I made using the 1 sample I had

mjk · Jul 9, 2020

Yup
I now will have a few real ones
Thanks M B for the update

Really need to be more proactive with the in box

mjk · Jul 11, 2020

Thanks MB collets arrived well packed

Re Small Tools Cleveland, they have some but in the odd fractional sizes.

Would still like to find 1/4" & 1/2"

I'dG84that · Jul 12, 2020

I have a 1/4" Hardinge collet. PM sent.

mjk · Jul 21, 2020

Thanks to "I'dG84that" I now have the 1/4" collet

Still would like to find a 1/2"

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