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    Default Citizen Cincom F12 3 Phase Power

    New boat anchor arrived this past weekend.

    It is a Swiss machine - Citizen Cincom F12, I have no experience with swiss turning although my brother does.

    Have a VFD for my manual mill, but I'm wondering how I am going to power this.
    I have the power company coming to give me a quote on 3 phase, but I'm thinking it will be cost prohibitive.

    I know some guys on here power CNCs with RPCs, but I am also considering the phase perfect.

    I am thinking that the grey box that came with it is a 208-480 step-up transformer, but I am not sure.

    Anybody have experience with these machines?



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    More Pictures,


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    Just got the quote back from the power company for 3-phase to my garage: $9,899.73 plus 7% tax

    I'm thinking about a Phase Perfect 30HP (~$8,000) - this may be overkill, but I want the capacity for future machines.
    I am thinking that the Phase Perfect would be better for CNCs than a rotary.

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    If the power company quoted that...why buy a phase converter???

    30hp only runs 1 machine and for a little more you can run many machines.

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    Did the power co. say anything about minimums or demand charges?

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    Yes,

    This would be a secondary service.
    They would put a pole in my front yard and provide a separate commercial meter for the garage.

    Basically, it would be a non-residential without demand. The rate is close to what I am paying now for my house.

    The service is for less than 5 kWs. If I exceed 2,000 kWh per month for 2 consecutive months they would install a demand meter.

    The demand charge is $9.79 per kW and $0.00261 per kWh + other typical fees.

    Leaning toward the phase perfect because I the electric company’s quote doesn’t include digging the 18” trench to my garage or the wire from the pole they put in to my garage.


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